Where the hell did all the flying saucers go?

Man, back in the day, like the 1950's and 60's there were all those nice flying saucer UFO's. They were big and round and metallic and shiny.

My favorite were the ones which has the curvy disk and then bad the bubble on top with windows all around it, the insloped kinds.. kinda like they used to have on the old unpressurized passenger aircraft... only a bit bigger.

But now... no more. You rarely see the good saucer photos. I can only assume they have been retired and only flown by the old "classic saucer" alien fans, who fly them for fun to rallies and stuff.

You see the triangular ones every once in a while and the ones which are like a weird cross between a saucer and a bubble. Or even a wallnut or something. I think the triangle thing was kinda a fad in the 1990's, when the F-117 got all that attention... all the aliens were copying it's style...


But mostly now none of the good solid ones seem to show up anymore. Okay, traingles and wedges were kinda a dumb fad, but now the aliens seem to all be flying poorly-defined orbs and balls of goo or just little plasma-looking things. I guess it's the whole "Organic" style that is big now.. Too bad you can rarely see what the actual shape is.

Is it just me? Or does anyone else think that the old ones, like the classic 1955 "Bubble Top", and the 1966 "Kinda Chubby saucer with little landing feet" just seem to have more character to them?

Man.. UFO designers these days... no fresh ideas. No style

At least with a flying saucer you know exactly what you're dealing with. I mean a "UFO" could be anything!

It's even worse. They practically never get seen flying any more. In an interesting book, "Watch the Skies: A Chronicle of the Flying Saucer Myh", Curtis Peebles traces how the working myth of flying-saucer proponents evolved over the years, and examines how sightings changed with social factors. The last of the classic flying-saucer flaps happened around 1973; reported sightings changed from flying disks, etc. to reports of abductions and close encounters. (And when you come right down to it, the objects Kenneth Arnold described in 1947 weren't saucer-shaped, he just compared their motion to skipped saucers.)

He also cites work by Otto Billig pointing out that these flaps coincided well with periods of ill-defined tension at least in Western societies. The "ill-defined" part was important - the Cuban Missile Crisis (aka Caribbean Crisis aka October Crisis) didn't count, for example, because the reasons for dread were quite specific and well-defined.

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Well I should actually confess that I have seen flying saucers and they are not entirely gone. I assure you: I can produce a flying saucer on demand.

I see a flying saucer, often headed in my direction, if anyone ever happens to serve my grandmother a cup of tea that is not hot enough or is otherwise not to her liking....

Why, everyone knows they all paired up with the flying cups!

And the dish ran away with the spoon...

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Didn't you hear? The old designs were pulled because they were found to produce too much graviton pollution. But rest assured, the engineers are working hard on the new environmentally friendly models.

it's obv that the stealth technology used by the Aliens can make them look like whatever it is we expect to see.

Like they are Polymorphic, they can make themselvesd look like what the observer wants to see.

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Oh of course! They *want* us to see them. But only when we're alone... and preferably not with a camera.


They do allow their picture to be taken, but never when they're up really close and the lighting is good. If you have a Polaroid, it's dark and they're a half mile away, they might pose, but they're too shy to show up at the superbowl or anything...

And, see, that's the really scary part. Because certain circles in the alien engineering community have been advocating the use of biofuel for flying saucers. And the "bio" they want to use... is US!

BEWARE when the aliens arrive at the UN with a book titled, "Man-Powered Flight!"

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This is a very important point that is almost universally overlooked. The pilot who saw something actually described the shape of the objects, and they weren't saucer shaped. He did say they skipped like saucers. Others picked up on the word "saucer" and started claiming to see saucer-shaped UFOs. That to me is one of the strongest pieces of evidence against the UFO=flying saucer argument.

A journalistic mistake becomes a world wide phenomena lasting more than 50 years...

Unbelievable yet true...

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Haven't you heard about the Drones?? Looks like a lamp shade frame, hangs around California....Even though a UFO site debunked the fakery, some true believers still are carrying on about it, and what it means "environmentally".

Makes me long for the good old days....

Dale

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Sorry Zapp, but all I can think of is the "real" Zapp saying "Man-Powdered Flight", giving a little trust of his hips, and Leela rolling her eye.

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Man Powdered Flight? Man Powder? How sensually sensual. Kiff! Bring me my man powder!

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The demise of flying saucers can be linked to the demise of using full hub caps on cars. No coincidence.

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the shapes of alien ships have kept pace with the ability of Hollywood special effects crews to make different styles of ships and make them look realistic.
back in the 50's, all they had the technology to do was hang some plates upside down and wobble them a bit. so that's what the public expected to see when they saw something strange.
these days, and alien ship can be whatever we want it to be.
personally, i blame George Lucas and Gene Roddenberry for making our UFO sightings less uniform.

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That is totally unfair... Steven Spielberg did his bit too.

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I liked the old UFO's better. They were exciting. Okay, even gawdy at times. But just the same: it was clear that being noticed and having style mattered.

"What's new for 59? Why it's the new Invader Series 5000. But this doesn't look like any invader you've seen before. With it's fully chromed underbelly, this saucer is sure to get you noticed. And be sure to let the wind flow through...or over your... bald grey head... with new ElectromaticPlus(tm) automated windows. And if it's night, you won't be sitting in the dark either. That's because the Series 5000 features the latest in high brightness glowing orbs, a feature to improve both style and safety.

So sure, you say. The Invader has looks, but I didn't get this saucer to just look at it. Well, friend, you haven't seen anything until you try opening the throttle on this one. The new AtomoPower(tm) gravity generator carries on the legacy of Invader series performance, but is updated to offer even better acceleration than previous models. And as you'd expect, the ride is smooth at any speed."

I really don't the hell know, Drbuzz0. Perhaps they dwindled along with the imaginations of those who threw tin plates or hubcaps into the air and shot the result with an old, out-of-focus Argus.

Hubcaps and pie tins usually are (and appear big when close and out of focus).

What can I say? Advances in technology.

And apparently, some declines in technology, too.

Goo is in. Hubcaps are out.

Anything is possible.

Well, I'd have to agree with you, there, particularly when computerized image analysis these days easily spots such fakes by the fuzzy edge gradients and other latent artifacts which can be measured given original camera and film information. So much so to the point where the size of those hubcaps can actually be calculated...

That might be one reason behind the goo (or as I've seen in a couple of pictures, the lights which were used in the darkroom to overexpose the negative, thus creating a glowing positive.

And glowing positives are actually quite cool. I enjoy showering them on co-workers from time to time, as it really makes their day.

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Oh of course! They *want* us to see them. But only when we're alone... and preferably not with a camera.

And drunk...

OK, that does it. Tonight I'm camping out at my local dealership so I can be first in line tomorrow.

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One mildly interesting sighting of a roughly saucer-shaped object was the O'Hare airport event; the somewhat credulous NARCAP organisation has put out an interesting analysis of the sighting, available in PDF form here (large file)
http://www.narcap.org/reports/TR10_Case_18.pdf
I have to say I'm impressed, despite some errors in the paper (The initial table of witnesses is different in several respects from the names given to the witnesses in the text, and witness E and F are confused in the text as well- these are the first that pop up in a quick examination.)

But the phenomenon itself itself doesn't seem to be easily explained if it resembled the descriptions given by the various witnesses (which is a little hard, at they estimated it's size as ranging from a possible 88 feet to the size of a bird). In particular the possibility of a naturally occuring hole-punch cloud caused by the B-F effect seems to be adequately ruled out.

It is a shame that one of the more interesting sightings in recent years produced no significant radar return or verifiable photos; this is possibly because the witness known in this paper variously as Witness 'E' or 'F' was correct, and it was only a bird after all.

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Yeah, but was it an Earth bird, or a space-alien bird?

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I'm afraid we don't have many sightings anymore because we have gone back to making earth people the repositories of our fears and paranoia, just like back in the good old days of witch burning.

I think it might be time for a song...

Where have all the flying saucers gone,
Long time passing,
Where have all the flying saucers gone,
Long time ago.
Where have all the flying saucers gone,
Young Earthers have crashed them, everyone.

Oh when will they ever learn,
When will they ev-er learn.

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Why is it that 01101001 isn´t questioning this thread with questions like "where is the conspiracy here?" "what is this thread doing here" "please explain what is the conspiracy here" ?

You tell me.

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Years ago you could achieve near celebrity status by telling the local press about a flying saucer sighting. Today all you will get is mockery and doubts about your sanity.

If today you saw something different in the sky would you report it or think twice before making a fool of yourself?

The media will run a story if it has a new angle on the subject. Proof is now required, otherwise it’s the same old hoax story again and it just doesn’t get reported.

Just think about how clever it is of ‘aliens’ to be able to use something as simple as a Hubcap to fly around earth in.