Unless you believe good ole Nancy, then it is a geographical pole reversal, created by the strong magnetic pull of Planet X.

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Is a discussion of the tippe top on your list?
Do one of those threads 'go there'?

forget the jews and christians.
just become a muslim and you shall have your wish.

OR everybody, jews, christians, muslims, all peoples, bow down to the moon.

I don't know who any of those people are.
I don't know what they said.
but there is absolutely zero evidence that anything special will happen in 2012.

and with that logic life goes on....

I can prove you wrong.
Something special will definitely occur.
Should be a really good show.

namaste

Looks like you're ignorant that the Hebrew Calendar is also lunar.

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...or that Maksutov died last year...

Now now, R.A.F., a new poster can hardly be expected to know that, and with the frequency of Mak's excellent posting this issue is likely to turn up again and again. Yet, judging from reading Mak's posts, I'm sure he'd be laughing his behind off at someone arguing religion with him at this particular point in time. *tips glass*

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What about the fact that he's responding to two-year-old posts?

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I wish people would stop predicting a catastrophe in 2012, the Olympics aren't that far over budget...

somebody can see what I was actually suggesting that I was predicting in 2012.
yes the olympics will be a grand show.

Another huge event, marking 911 is also scheduled.
The opening of the brand new and improved WTC, scheduled to be completed in 2012, accompanied by pomp and ceremony.

maybe the WTC ceremony might be orchestrated in such a way...that it will assist in helping to reverse human consciousness?
Maybe religion and science both grow up and shake asymmetrical hands?

I.e. maybe it is a ceremony representing the impending 'flip' everybody anticipates?

But this 'archetypal' flip might have more to do with our MINDS flipping, than the earth itself?
The minds of 6 billion sheeple and seegullibles who affect the observation?

The mind is a powerful thing.
Maybe if we learn to use both hemispheres of the ASYMMETRICAL brain consciously, we really might tap into something grand?

namaste

my nonsense?
oh my....I am seeing red now.
directed at me by the impartial mod?

that message re: the Tippe Top?
never heard of it eh tusenfem?
Peter Warlow put forth a theory back in the 1980s using this a model for pole reversals.

So do you mind if we discuss it please?
I did NOT see it on the list on the opening page.
That is clearly why I asked about such nonsense.

unless of course the moon plays a role in such a flip?
Can I connect the moon to such a conspiracy?
(I might just post such a theory in the ATM)

Am I not allowed to make comments?

NOW the folks who responded, and attacked my character apparently are entitled to respond?
I am supposed to know when BAUT members died?
oy vey
I am not on the obituary e-mail list yet.

Did you send the fellas who slammed me with their noxious, toxic comments 'RED' messages too?
c'mon
play and discuss fair

no problemo amigo
but I do want to respond to one comment, directed at me calling me ignorant.
And then I will refrain from mentioning the moon and religion in the same sentence.
It seems to upset folks on this forum.

Is that fair, that I am allowed to respond to ignorance and post the truth?
I thought BAUT only endorsed truth?

you decide
your impartiality is under the microscope now.

When it comes to the esoteric, arcane, hidden knowledge, the ancient 'mysteries', BAUT members do appear 'challenged'.

There are two sides to what science now has defined as a flat universe.
The Exoteric and the Esoteric.

The ancients said their world/universe was flat, using only naked eye observations of the cosmos, somehow they arrived at this conclusion.
And science with their telescopes, thousands of years, later have finally confirmed this.

Our universe has been identified by science/WMAP as being flat.

yahoo the ancients were correct in their 'archetypal musings'?
Are you familiar with the story about the scientist that climbs the mountain of knowledge only to find the theologian sitting there waiting?

Let me add an addendum to this story.
It is a plateau, it is not the peak the scientist and theologian have reached.

Across the abySS, the priest and scientist see perched on the highest mountain in the vicinity, the shaman.
Yup that is correct, the shaman has been identified as the eastern sherpa who helped carry the westerner Sir Edmund Hillary's fame, on his back.
Right to the top of the world.

namaste

yes I know that O henry
my comment was directed at the dead poster not ignorance resurrected.

I was addressing his comment about easter/passover becoming the first day of the year.

The muslims, like I inferred in my comment to the dead guy, celebrate the march equinox (=easter/passover) as the first day of the year.

read this O henry ... I know what the vernal equinox REALLY represents dude.
but any mention of the moon...without landing on it...appears as BAUT heresy?

Leave me alone, find somebody else to 'attack'.

Anybody ready to discuss the 'Tippe Top' = pole reversals OR is attack mode all the mob knows?

namaste

Raphael

Warlow proposed his "Tippe Top" model (in which the Earth's orientation changes relative to a fixed spin axis) in an article published in 1978.
Slabinski pointed out flaws in his calculations in an article published in the same journal in 1981.

Grant Hutchison

Something special occurs every year.

All I meant was Raphael should not be expecting an answer...that's all.

I certainly agree with that...knowing Mak, he'll likely "win" the argument.

The modern World tracks time by,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, The Gregorian calendar is the internationally accepted civil calendar.[1][2][3] It was first proposed by the Calabrian doctor Aloysius Lilius, and decreed by Pope Gregory XIII, after whom the calendar was named, on 24 February 1582 by the papal bull Inter gravissimas. It was adopted later that year by a handful of countries, with other countries adopting it over the following centuries.

Period!

The Vatican hijacked time for the world. The Calandar of the Sun.

Gotcha, misunderstood.

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What's exactly your point? The Gregorian calendar is an amendment of the Julian calendar. Do you know after whom it's named?

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yes that was 1981
we have come a long way baby
well some of us have.
forget the 'calculations' for a moment.

we have identified potential flaws to those 1981 arguments.
we have since identified potential forces necessary to tip us over.

back in 1981, did Slabinski give a reason for why a gamma ray burst could not supply such a force?
will I find that in his retort?

namaste

can you fellas 'argue' OR DEBATE for yourselves?
BAUT is all about 'winning' arguments?

I believe that you are the same Raphael that posts over on this forum: http://2012forum.com/forum/

Since you seem to be having a good time over there bashing Phil and this forum, why do you post here? (Of course, I know the answer.)

what is a sock puppet?
I believe the poster you called a sock puppet did mention Gregorys name.

I hate to bring up the MOON again, which is attached to the earth (i.e. they share a center of gravity) but I have a question.

What would happen to the earth's center of gravity (via barycenter) if the MOON disappeared and no longer had any influence down here?

hypothetically can anybody answer that?
I mean we often hear about meteorites taking us out.
What if something took the MOON out?

Anybody?

And while others are discussing Pope Gregory and the creation of "scientific calenders", (solar vs. lunisolar), can anybody please tell me what the symbols are that the RC church uses, that represent the MOON?

I know the Jews recognize PASSOVER because it marks the beginning of their 'timeclock', the moment of creation.

The Muslims have lunar crescents on their national flags and they worship both the sun and the moon.

The Christians have been called a solar cult.
Funny coincidence, I am having difficulty locating important lunar symbols connected to Christianity.

Would the solar cults rejoice if a meteor took the moon out?

namaste

yes that is correct.
so what...I am not the only fella who arrives on this forum to challenge the mainstream status quo.

if this site is about revealing truths, it will withstand my lies and fabrications, IF that is what they are.
But not one fella has proved me yet a liar, only deficient in using your woo-woo science and math to support my claims.

phil called steve colbert the satirist/comedian out.
I am calling phil the joker/trickster and BAUT out.
I would love to share a stage, positioned between religion and the tag team of phil and dick dawkins.
And not one of us would be allowed to leave the stage until they shout out "I am a monKEY's uncle".
I have the proof to prove they should shake hands and make up.
IMHO

So can anybody answer my science questions, please?
Or shall we only discuss personalities?

WHAT would happen to the earth if a really big meteor took the MOON out instead of the earth?
I am curious as to how science would answer this.

namaste

My point is the Catholic Church aka Christianity controls the World with their time keeping methods. The balance of the Solar and Lunar cycles has been corrupted. We are not living in a natural world anymore.

And of course we've come an even longer way (baby) since Warlow's 1978 paper.Then you must feel free to expound on those potential flaws. And any actual flaws you're aware of, too.

Grant Hutchison

Please explain how and why you believe a fairly uniform¹ wavefront of electromagnetic radiation is able to exert sufficient force?

And how it would be able to do so without at the same time sterilizing the Earth?

And through which mechanism the Mayan's could have predicted this?

Please note that these are direct questions in the sense of rule 13.

Note also that my name is not Henry, please refrain from referring to me by that name.

1) by the time it reaches us. I know they are highly directionally when generated.

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