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Old 26-August-2007, 06:40 PM
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The International Space Agency (ISA) Organization, had its start way back in 1986. Since 1986 the ISA Organization has grown very very slowly under stiff resistance by some very very powerful (and Very Very Malicious) folks, with a very very narrow agenda for the Human Space Effort! :-(

In 1990 the International Space Agency was incorporated as a non-profit corporation in New York State. Since 1990, the ISA Organization has been seeking to gain International Treaty Status, so that the ISA Organization can better achieve its goals and mission in a true international context and treaty framework.

The International Space Agency has also been involved in great battle against the United States Government, and NASA, which have tried to stop the ISA Organization from attaining its Registered Trademark, and rightful use of the International Space Agency (ISA) name and public identity. This legal war was won in 2006, when the International Space Agency was granted its Federal Trademark in June of 2006.

You can find the Trademark documents, under the Certificate of Incorporation section of the ISA Secure Website, at: <url removed>

You can see more information about the International Space Agency endeavor, projects, and efforts on our "New" Secure ISA Public Website, that just came on line May 1st of 2007.

The "New" Secure ISA Public Website is:
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In a nutshell, the International Space Agency is to act as an enabler of International (Multi-National) Space Activities and Endeavors outside the "National Domain" and Capability. Like International Lunar Bases and Mars Missions, and such. It is also to act like a bridge between Government, Commercial, Scientific, Academic, and Private Enterprises, Organizations, and Persons in an International (Global) Context.

The International Space Station (ISS), is a good step towards what the International Space Agency (ISA) has been working on in a broader global context since 1986.

However, in reality, the International Space Station (ISS) is really not a "true" International Space Station! In reality, ISS is an "American Space Station", that the USA has allowed other nations to participate in, as we see fit, and as to advance the USA National space agenda and goals. It is not new or unknown news, that Russia and ESA member states are thinking about pulling out of ISS and starting their own Space Station with China. This, as many of the ISS members, have been "frustrated" at the USAs overzealous micromanagement and control of the ISS for its own narrow agendas and purposes.

The International Space Agency hopes to improve these longtime bad relations and feelings, by creating a "TRUE" international management, operations, and quality control team that could provide the central administrative core to Human Space Projects of the scale and scope of the International Space Station (ISS), and others beyond ISS, like a International Lunar Base and International Missions to Mars, and one day and International Base on Mars. Such projects are truly outside the National Domain or ability.

This is what the International Space Agency (ISA) Organization has been working towards since 1986!

This historic and noble journey has been painfully slow, full of political pot holes and landmines, and "sadly" manipulated and undermined by the 500 pound guerillas of the day, bent on National control of space for narrow and hostile intentions and agendas.

The International Space Agency (ISA) presently is very small in numbers and operates on very limited resources and support. This against Governments like the United States and National Space Agencies like NASA, which have many thousands of dedicated people, and billions in deep pocket tax payer funds, at their disposal. A David and Goliath battle for sure. The International Space Agency (ISA) may be the underdog, but we are a dedicated group of professionals, working towards an important and noble cause.

Any simple Internet search will turn up years and years, and layers and layers, of massive false propaganda and malicious information about the International Space Agency (ISA), its Efforts, and its People. Many of these activities have been state sanctioned attacks on the ISA Organization and its People, by paid agents of the United States Government, and CIA!

This is why the National Governments need to be curtailed and controlled, if Humanity is to ever get into Space in any meaningful way of scope or scale. The International Space Agency (ISA) Organization offers this hope for a peaceful future for humanity in Space.

Important information can be found about the International Space Agency (ISA) on its NEW youtube site. Here are a few good links to information about the ISA Endeavor.

International Space Agency - The ISA Global Team!
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International Space Agency - Introduction
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International Space Agency - The Vision Unfolds!
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International Space Agency Statement - Part 1
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International Space Agency Statement - Part 2
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<search youtube for the above videos, if you care>

Thanks for your support and comments!

Ad-Astra! To The Stars!
In Peace For All Mankind!

Humbly In Your Service,

The ISA Global Team
International Space Agency, I.S.A.
International Space Administration

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Old 27-August-2007, 04:15 PM
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Do you have anything specific to talk about, or are you just here to violate rule #6?
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Old 27-August-2007, 04:25 PM
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Someone abuse the search function please, this was discussed in 2004 (and more recently with a very similar "advertise yourself" post IIRC, but not sure about that).

Let me just add that I for one do not recognize the ISA as anything more than all clubs me and my friends used to form, only difference being we not bothering to make it an official organisation.
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Old 27-August-2007, 04:50 PM
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My guess is that large part of the resistance came from all those who are named on the site in a way that can be easily interpreted as if they're a concious and voluntary member of this ISA, while they're not.
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Old 27-August-2007, 04:58 PM
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Credibility. Window. Out.
And if that isn't enough a swift look around their website gets rid of anything that is left, a badly designed site with articles that seem to use a different (but all badly chosen) colour for each paragraph and no actual technical detail, oh and for some reason they are using HTTPS to somehow make their site "secure" (why? If the "very very powerful (and Very Very Malicious) folks" can change the internet DNSs then faking a security cert is easy).

Also I am sure that this lot has shown up fairly recently as well (or at least stuff with the exact same style).
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Old 27-August-2007, 05:12 PM
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Hey, but they have spiffy hats!
(Did the CCCP/USSR have a garage sale?)
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Old 27-August-2007, 05:22 PM
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^^ Spooky, a bit like Sea Organization.
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Old 27-August-2007, 06:19 PM
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Oh my...
Just waded through all the links...I don't know what these people do for a living, but I hope they are better at it than playing Space Agency bosses. It's just...wierd.
Check out the "statements"...it's a grand delusion.
(their professional presentations have me dumbstruck)
Edit...with the colors and the clutter on the website, why am I thinking gaetanomarano might have a hand in this "virtual space agency"? Just speculating...

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Old 27-August-2007, 07:01 PM
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Hey, but they have spiffy hats!
(Did the CCCP/USSR have a garage sale?)
Why would anyone want to join NASA when you can look like a member of a Soviet Village People tribute band?
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Old 27-August-2007, 07:10 PM
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Why would anyone want to join NASA when you can look like a member of a Soviet Village People tribute band?
Young man, there's no need to feel down.
I said, young man, launch yourself off the ground.
I said, young man, 'cause NASA's a clown
There's no need to be unhappy.

Young man, outer space you should go.
I said, young man, just give us your dough.
I said, young man, help us fight all 'r foes.
Many ways to waste your time.

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It's fun to join the I - S - A.
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Old 27-August-2007, 07:13 PM
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keyboard cleaning time again...and thanks a bunch for putting some really, really bizzare images in my mind!
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Edit...with the colors and the clutter on the website, why am I thinking gaetanomarano might have a hand in this "virtual space agency"? Just speculating...
I seem to recall that he was the one who brought up the ISA stuff before, though I haven't been able to find any evidence other than my not terribly reliable memory and site searches for "international space agency gaetanomarano" or "ISA gaetanomarano" don't find anything.
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Someone abuse the search function please, this was discussed in 2004 (and more recently with a very similar "advertise yourself" post IIRC, but not sure about that).

Let me just add that I for one do not recognize the ISA as anything more than all clubs me and my friends used to form, only difference being we not bothering to make it an official organisation.
http://www.bautforum.com/archive/index.php/t-22765.html

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Old 27-August-2007, 08:50 PM
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I don't know where it came up, but I'm 100% sure I've seen the (old version of the) site before and discussed it. I'm not sure it was here though.

About gaetanomarano: I don't think there is any evidence to think he's involved in this ISA stuff, so I'd suggest not to make these "accusations" when founded only on "the site uses colours too".
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you're right, my apologies to Gaetano.
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Old 28-August-2007, 12:37 AM
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I've seen the way this kind of thread goes in the past. This guy used to post at newmars and spacedotcom.

http://www.newmars.com/wiki/index.ph...l_Space_Agency
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Old 28-August-2007, 01:07 AM
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For the OP,
Having watched the video links, I am not certain what the goal of the organization is. It certainly has an anti US government tilt to it, with many serious accusations. There are many grand plans, which are currently duplicated presently by industry, governmental spaceflight organizations and inter-governmental/inter-organizational agreements and treaties.
Space concerns in the spacefaring countries tend to cooperate to a large extent despite the limitations pressed on them by their governments and the associated politics. I see the astronauts greeting their counterparts from differing nations as real friends. They have worked together, trained together, and now flown together...in space.
The technology of spaceflight is sensitive, with many serious potential military applications. In an ideal world, this would not be a concern for a human-wide push in the universe, but that is not realistic. It is obvious that much of the technology is shared, with the world benefitting.
I think the statements made in the links are slanted, and overly simplistic. They do not recognize the difficulties of international joint space operations. What does this organization offer that is not being done now, albeit with slow, painstaking steps?
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Haha, interesting - reminds me of something actually, anyone want to join my Solar Council?

www.solarcouncil.com

(Actually, I need someone to design me a webpage before I can sell the Soviet - Era costumes)
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I got the, "This website wants to run the Windows Media Installer Core. If you trust this website..."

No.

And by the way, when you have about twenty members who're chairpersons and board of directions, with a staff of one, something's definately upside down with this picture...

and

I'll be they can't even get into a CON.