Boy so many experts, know it all's, & all eductaed, yet none want to see any links, nor the video, nor of what I have been trying to show.

Do what you wish. That NOT changes the facts to my words spoken when I started this thread.

I am presenting & trying to present you all to this MYSTERY.
A Mystery in the process of trying to be solved. Allowing you all to see & partake in this investigation, to see & KNOW my agenda is true & righteous in this DIS-COVERY of these FACES OF MARS!!

None has SHOWN that they are fakes. None has shown they do NOT exist!

Details will come as they do & when I provide them as I see fit, as I learn more.

The point & fact is you all now have attention! Attention to some possibilities that your gonna be faced with to consider! NOT on the time you want neither!

That obviously goes for me as well. :-/

I don't like it any more than you do. In that regard! ;-)

But it is how it is.

Keep sayin & thinkin that Hans. Believe what you wish. It NOT changes anything regarding what is gonna come forth, & you & all NAYSAYERS will be the ones looking like the fool! Not me!

So answers will come as they do. I will not release prtiment info that I do have... until I am ready. I also will NOT reply to insults & demeaning attitudes to me. But as I said, I already shown links, pertinent links, to help you see & understand the path I was & am on, that has gotten me to the point I am at now. (which youd love to see & know... but when I am ready)

I am cool to all that are cool to me. That is just how it is. If & when I am banned, it is because YOU cannot solve what I presented, & want more info from me that your gonna get until ready. I told you from the beginning how this was going to be. Banned or unbanned,.. This will be seen & felt anyway. Especially when the motts gets in. ;-)

You want answers but not wish to consider any of them nor want to do any work yourselves trying to see or understand why this is even going on!

At least I am NOT hiding my efforts from you or anyone. Just a little information that aint ready for you yet, because I need to tie up some ends before I can present it.

The slander, mocking, insulting nature of many of the posts in here deals speciffically to the effects of the POLICY that has been initiated & encouraged & enforced for so many years. A Battle is coming! Where & when that will dissappear. At least where truth or lies, real or not real, comes into play regarding these new Faces of Mars!

You have now the PRELIMINARY REPORT, by someone on the INSIDE, who said some interesting things. Even considering what many of you do,.. if they are fakes! That gets overruled however! See his reasoning in HIS Findings, as he is someone that KNOWS! ;-)

It is apart of getting youz more answers. You want any, you must work for it as I am. This aint a silver platter for you.

Nor is this research DONE on YOUR basis of wants! Because it still exists regardless.

You do NOT control the way & form this investigation takes place or will take place. You only live behind a wall of internet rules set upon this particular place.

That you have power to ban or unban. But NOT the power to stop what is coming your way regardless!!!

I appreciate the spot this topic is in, & allowing me to post. I do NOT appreciate the slander, ridicule, insults, & demanding of things you yourselves have no real clue or say in to begin with. Just this forum you do.

That aint enough to stop me on the path I chose & planned how to undertake my course to bring this forth!!

Some raised good points, regardless if they see or not see, believe or not believe. This is after all, an investigation at this point.

See & show how good YOU can be or do to this investogation to prove or disprove... this CASE BEING PRESENTED!!!

I am putting up. Just not what you wanna hear & see is most obvious.
yet you choose to ignore any & all I do say & show when it comes to considering the answers I am trying to tell & help you with also.

This is showing & revealing much about the nature of this place & you all as individuals speaking on behalf of this place. This is being used also as apart of my evidences to present, & your actually helping me make my case in point in that regard. Ha ha ha ha ha.

You need to read that PRELIMINARY REPORT!! You may learn a couple FACTS! To consider!

No one has won this battle taking shape & place here now.
Lest any boast, as some have been doing. Ahem!!!

You have the power of this forum & it's POLICY. I have the power to control the flow of this investgation, that YOU do not & cannot! That reaches far beyond this forum. So you can choose to ban, choose to ignore... It will NEVER GO AWAY!! You will see & hear of it again,.. & again... Haunting you, as these OMENS FROM THE PAST are now Haunting some others as well, for OTHER reasons! PAYBACK!!!!To the rest of us,.. it spells out DISCLOSURE!!! It is nearer than you think!

So I hope real discussion can continue. But again, look where this topic is existing. :-/

I know as well as others, what to expect. You fulfilled that already what expectations were, & even surprised some as well. ;-)

You can ignore, ban,.. whatever... but you cannot CLOSE THIS CASE!

That is what I think really bothers some of you anyway.
Your powers are NOT infinite & all encompassing!

It is controlled & limited in fact.

So I hope that youz will simply follow my links, follow my advice, & follow your own hearts & minds & ask yourselves some real tough questions, to continue on to seek some answers yourselves. What can YOU do or bring to the table to show this is fake,.. or real.

The attempts by some in here made again,.. NOT proves anything. Especially when there is MORE to see & know! ;-)

But when you ignore & choose not to address what is available already, why bother continuing on anyway?? Your minds are already made up & are closed to anything. Until I am ready to force them open, & show the world what YOU are really about & show that you are what I accused... Institutors & appeasants of POLICY!

an OLD Policy!!

MARS REVEALER: CYDO_NAUT_KNIGHT

I am NOT the one who made the Preliminary Report!!

I did answer the questions. You have also my reply. ;-)

I am NOT the one who made the Preliminary Report!!

I don't believe you. Substantiate your claim by giving the name of the author and the means by which I can contact him.

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Wasn't there a guy a year or so ago that claimed that the TV series that MR has lifted his images from was real? just like MR is doing?

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The fact that you ignore the HIRES images of the "face" only demonstrates that you are NOT searching for the truth...you're simply trying to keep alive a story debunked long ago. In other words, it's not a matter of us "closing the case" as the case has been "closed" for years.

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According to Mars: A Traveler's Guide, it was published to give the public a landmark to know on Mars, in case either Viking landed nearby. The CT reactions were not expected.

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None has SHOWN that they are fakes.

Yes, I have. I am willing to give a deposition and professional opinion under oath as an expert in digital image processing and image analysis that the three photographs you posted, derived from the background of a commercial television program, are digital compositions. I am willing to discuss those findings with any qualified image analyst.

You have consistently failed to address our claims with anything but mindless denial.

I am cool to all that are cool to me. That is just how it is. If & when I am banned, it is because YOU cannot solve what I presented...

You presented fake pictures. They were easily detected by several people independently as fakes. The problem is solved. You cannot provide any authoritative source for the images. You refuse to name the "insiders" who you say agree with you. You have "presented" nothing that requires the attention of thoughtful people.

You want answers but not wish to consider any of them nor want to do any work yourselves trying to see or understand why this is even going on!

You're spinning tall tales upon the proposition that obviously-fake pictures are somehow real. What else is going on?

At least I am NOT hiding my efforts from you or anyone.

Then give the name of the preliminary report's author. If you expect us to accept it as the word of an "insider" then his insider status must be verified. Otherwise it's a more likely conclusion that you wrote it.

You have now the PRELIMINARY REPORT, by someone on the INSIDE...

There is no evidence that article was written by anyone "on this inside." I think you wrote it, and I think you're refraining from naming the anonymous author because no such person exists.

You only live behind a wall of internet rules set upon this particular place.

No. I practice science and engineering and investigation in the real world, where consequences follow getting the wrong answer and demonstrable expertise is required as a condition of practice. I bring those same standards of investigation here. Your theory fails to meet even the mininum hurdle of credibility. Your key evidence is obvious fakery that you are wilfully denying.

I am putting up. Just not what you wanna hear & see is most obvious.

Begging the question. Your pictures are fake, and you refuse to address the evidence proving they are fake.

I'm not reading any more of this rant. You simply refuse to face well-informed opposition.

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MR,

If you are an adult and English is your first language then you need to go back to school and learn how to put sentences together. If you continue to write like this you'll never be able to convince an educated person - even if your data are correct. And this is just one example. There must be 50+ spelling and grammar errors in that last ramble of yours. Bad writing weakens your case.

If English is not your primary language or you're twelve years old, then I apologize and you can ignore my post.

Show it Cap Swoop!
No one has seen or brought out these images or mentioned anything about them or this video until I REVEALED IT!
Not believe me Utah!! What does that ruin for my case??? NOTHING!

It aint disclosed because he & myself, are NOT ready to do so.... YET!
So how can I burn that bridge if he wished not to be revealed?

Hey, not blame me! I have many things in this I think it SUCKS to be as it is & where I am. But I am still marchin forth anyway. ;-)

It will all come in it's proper 'TIMING'!

Somehow that is essential to those that created this.

That is just one piece of this puzzle.

You may & will contact anyone you wish... at which point I or him, shows who he is & wishes to be contacted.

But sounds like your just trying to throw yourself in on this kill. MY KILL!!!

You have sloppy 2nds!!! I am still tryin to eat my fill of my meal I am served with also.

Trust me, no disrespect to ANY of youz! I am also at various cruxes in this THING!

But it has already started. More will come. That I promise.
The way is being paved even as this is being seen!!

Higher forces are at work. I am but playing a part in thier agenda & THEIR Plan of how this will all come out!

Think you that makes me feel all giddy & yippee???

Not underestimate me, nor these images, nor the ones who created this all to unfold.... now!

There is a bigger message here to see & hear & consider & UNDERSTAND,.. when this is done!

Then youz & I, will look back to this point where we are at now,.. & what will then one wish?? How would one feel??? Remember this, as you shall as the time comes!

I will & can say that this person, does have many years in NASA. In the inside of the Viking Program, as well as connections to INTELLIGENT beings in our government!

He is more credible than any of you to be putting forth a report of any kind regarding these images at all!

As I said,.. some interesting information provided. Though more is wanted & needed ay? ;-)

Why not just post what you wish to say to him Utah??

I know & can guarentee he will see your questions at least. If & when the time comes, he may wish to address them.

Make it good. Is all I have to say. I will say however if anything is looking as like being presented to me in wanting to have your questions answered, not bother replying anything then. ;-)

He is a serious guy. Mind you also that is, & was PRELIMINARY... REPORT!

;-)

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Why not just post what you wish to say to him Utah??

I have no reason to believe he exists unless I am able to converse with him directly without your intervention. If he exists, I have no reason to trust what you say he says.

Please provide me immediately with the real name and contact information for the author of that report.

You clearly have time to type in these lengthy rants, so I require the information immediately.

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I really don't think that's going to happen....at least not on this board.

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I am not making any claim of these images accpet my opinion & belief from what I investigated so far into this, & what I learned, & what it leads me to think.

I believe they are real. Big deal.

The high rez view by the way of the MERE FACE AT CYDONIA, has NOT shown or prved it is not a Face.

I aint even gonna address those dumb POLICY tactic issues anymore.
It is moot here & now, & includes also,... MORE FACES than the MERE Face we see.. & wish not to see. ;-)

You believe I wrote that report? ha ha ha. Fine. Believe what you wish. TIME will tell the truth. ;-)

As I am doing now.

The evidence NOT proves they are fake at all. It only proves a couple attempts were done at trying to look at the images & want to find anything wrong they can boast without certainty regarding the claim they are NOT real.

There is more to go on that they are real, than unreal!
TESTIMONY is also 2 of these Factors applied! Waiting to hear froma 3rd! Super Hoagy!!

Who as yet remains as failure to appear to his summons unto the inner court of this code structure calling him to appear!

What happens to someone who fails to appear to a court hearing especially for themselves??

An ARREST takes place.

He has been warned already in this code!

he shall have cardiac ARREST! The code says his chest will be opened up! Hundreds will appear to his funeral!!

Sounds pretty intense & spooky to me!!! he is after all the one being fingerpointed in this code as to knowing & Having access to these Faces of Mars, in HIS POSSESSION!!!

They DEMAND HIM in this code, to appear to testify on his behalf. To come clean. NOT whiteash the Lies of Stalin, nor his involvment with anything connecting. To show what he has, & that they want the fingerpointing about intelligence failures... TO STOP!!!

Many questions are raised, & if I can think of & raise these questions, how is it you who are so smart & credited,.. remained blind & closed minded???

Especially when we both... share a common... ENEMY??!!!

Who is he that needs to appear to rebutt or confirm... the testimony given about & against HIM, regarding this case, being presented in more ways than one!!!

Richard C. Hoagland!!!!

It is NOT just MY words that make this case, as I already SHOWN & LINKED!

So what you do is up to you, but not take it out on me that I do not conform to your wants or demands, when I am the one who is trying t help you see ANYTHING to begin with! ;-)

So... My method of reasoningto POST HERE should have been obvious when I started talking about these serious twilight zone sides.

That a saying goes like this...
'The Enemy Of My Enemy,.. Is therefore,.. MY FRIEND!!'

Think about that awhile as hoefully, you go look at links, read, & hear.

I am playing my cards exactly right. HE must be drawn out!

YOU should all be emailing HIM! Femanding to know of his involvement with this video, the producers & his affiliations & works together, as well as these Fces of Mars that is been alleged, is in HIS possession! WHY does he not show them?? Especially if he has them??

Would it NOT help his research for the open TRUTH of what he preaches about all these years???

Why does he choose to ignore them, after the fact his own words, encourgaed my investigation into them. Until, I seen what the code started showing me! Then it became all NONSENSE & ALL Lies, according to him.

Geee.. isn't that funny??? How this turns back on him & he wants all to think & consider this all is NONSENSE?? & ALL LIES???

If anything, if this all is true, he has been duping & LYING to the American public for many years!! HIDING this truth for what reasons???

Would NOT even you SKEPTICS,... be interested in knowing about that??

I am gathering my stuffs needed to play & FIGHT! I intend to win & to do so, I must do what I must do. Even if it not looks like it makes sense.

But it will be understood one day.

I am not making any claim of these images accpet my opinion & belief from what I investigated so far into this, & what I learned, & what it leads me to think.
Translation, "I am not making any claim, except for the claim I'm making."

The high rez view by the way of the MERE FACE AT CYDONIA, has NOT shown or prved it is not a Face.
The photo is of a geological surface, it's not up to us to prove it's not a face. It's up to you to prove that it is.

I aint even gonna address those dumb POLICY tactic issues anymore.
It is moot here & now, & includes also,... MORE FACES than the MERE Face we see.. & wish not to see. ;-)
??? Lost me. Ignore forum policy at your own risk.

You believe I wrote that report? ha ha ha. Fine. Believe what you wish. TIME will tell the truth. ;-)
TIME tells a lot of truths, usually about stuff like the war effort, local busniess news and human interest stories. I doubt they'll be publishing a story about doctored mars photos anytime soon, though.


There is more to go on that they are real, than unreal!
TESTIMONY is also 2 of these Factors applied! Waiting to hear froma 3rd! Super Hoagy!! Really? I disagree. And something tells me a large deli sandwhich will not change my mind (although I would be tempted to accept that as a bribe, as I love deli sandwhiches).

Who as yet remains as failure to appear to his summons unto the inner court of this code structure calling him to appear!

What happens to someone who fails to appear to a court hearing especially for themselves??

An ARREST takes place.

He has been warned already in this code!
Incoherant. I've heard Nirvana lyrics that make more sense.

...I'm sorry, the rest is just so purposely incomprehensable that i'm not going to indulge MR and attempt to read and comment on it. My time is more valuable than that.

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"In order to increase awareness of the homeless, security have been given binoculars."

I believe they are real. Big deal.

Then refute the evidence of fakery without stopping at denial.

The high rez view by the way of the MERE FACE AT CYDONIA, has NOT shown or prved it is not a Face.

Yes, it has. You use only the older, indistinct Cydonia images in your presentation. Why do you avoid the detailed image? Is that perhaps because the detailed image looks nothing like a face?

You believe I wrote that report? ha ha ha. Fine. Believe what you wish. TIME will tell the truth. ;-)

Please provide the name of the author and his contact information. This is the third request. I am under no obligation to believe your claim that it is from a knowledgeable insider until you provide me a means by which I can verify it independently.

The evidence NOT proves they are fake at all.

Evidence of fakery is conclusive. I have indicated the lengths I am willing to go to stand behind that conclusion.

TESTIMONY is also 2 of these Factors applied!

Anonymous testimony is not evidence.

I do not conform to your wants or demands, when I am the one who is trying t help you see ANYTHING to begin with! ;-)

Everyone must obey the rules in order to continue posting here. That includes me, and it includes you. Providing evidence upon request is one of the rules. I have asked you numerous times for evidence to substantiate your claim; it is now obvious you have little to offer but bizarre ranting.

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That you can ignore the obvious so "easily" demonstrates to me that further participation in this thread would be pointless.

Buh bye...

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MarsRevealer, are we just to assume these pictures are real? Without any source, reference, specified, verifiable origins whatsoever? Do you really want us to be that gullible?

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If that is YOUR conclusions. :-/

That is YOUR conclusions. I NOT see the same or agree to what you claim to see, or not see rather. ;-)

I see a face, & even more FACES. How about that? ;-)

That is the issues by the way. MORE FACES... OF MARS!

Your focusing on a MERE FACE AT CY! Pleeeeze!!

Stay focused here on the issues & between the lines information. WHO should you really be bringing questions in your mind to & about?

Think about that awhile ay?

Using your opinion & wishes to believe what something is or is NOT is NOT demonstating further participation in this thread will be useless. Only to you & like minds who wish to ignore & disregard what is told, or shown that may suggest something.... DIFFERENT! ;-)

That this surely does. ;-)

You all are resourceful right?? Have an IN on the inside or know someone that does right?

Your tellin me your quitting already?? :-/

To me this already here is a success! I achieved my AGENDA! Getting the heads up, giving some information, & telling youz what is to come.

It would be nice for this to stay, but I will be banned soon if I aint already. :-/

Typical. As Proven also already. More than Once! ;-)

What can I say?
This is bigger than even those in here to solve or debunk. Shows potential of what the future has in store regarding this change in the same ol same ol!

Many points were risen by all sides. Yet this is getting sharp in all the points being addressed.

Interesting indeed. Hmmmmm.

Why do I have the feeling this is being monitored by powers not in just this forum?

So I guess what your realy tryin to say RAF, is that all should follow your leader & NOT participate also ay? These are not feeble minds & sheep. But sheeple maybe.. But NOT dumb enough to see the ploy in your words for participation & reaction to your heed.

This issue & topic, is stronger than your thought controls! In or OUT of this forum.

Only in here, you can control this topic. Remember that!

By the way RAF?? How many images do we have now of The MERE Face at Cy??? of course I am including ALL missions, foreign & Domestic of course. ;-)

Now what does THAT demonstrate?? ;-)

But you ignore the obvious!

:-/

Sorry for posting this again, but MarsRevealer posted right after I posted, and I am kind of fearing my point will be ignored. Posts are easily overlooked.

MarsRevealer, are we just to assume these pictures are real? Without any source, reference, specified, verifiable origins whatsoever? Do you really want us to be that gullible?

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I do NOT want anyone to be gullible at this at all! Just the opposite! I want questions, & I want the one who can answer them, to be drawn out & answer his summons to appear!!! get it???

You are parts of the Jury, the case is not yet fully heard or seen.

I know what I think & what I believe based upon MY findings as the PRINCIPLAL INVESTIGATOR to The FACES OF MARS!

Big Deal again!

I want & need answers just like you all. I have NOTHING To hide accept that which I am NOT ready yet to show! BIG DEAL AGAIN!

Youz now know why!

Only one man can help with many of these answers, if he does what he is summoned & told to do by those that sent this message!! HE KNOWS WELL WHO THEY ARE!!!

I am sure many of you will find & use much of these implications about him in this to your leisure to do your stuffs. I OFFER you that! I need your helps... DRAW HIM OUT,.. & I will give you those answers, & hopefully he will as well! ;-)

I need those answers for my own personal being more so than these Faces.

So I am up for whatever comes from this place. :-/

I not expect it any less from here. :-/

But I KNOW your NOT Gullible, which helps to MY advantage in helping me get the information we ALL need & want!!

Take that as you wish & do what you will, as I said,.. This will still go on outside here & You all will see & feel it's impacts in time. ;-)
More ways than one.

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You can't see that the shadows on the so-called faces are heading in different directions than the topography around them? How do you explain these lighting angle anomalies? The "face" cannot be lit by a different light source that the surrounding terrain, but in these images they are. You can't just ignore that and still claim that the images are genuine without it being you that refuses to accept reality.

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Draw him out? Draw who out?

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I NOT see the same or agree to what you claim to see, or not see rather.

Continued denial noted.

Your focusing on a MERE FACE AT CY! Pleeeeze!!

No. We have looked at the three additional photos and given you conclusive evidence that they are fabricated. You refuse to acknowledge the existence of that evidence.

Your tellin me your quitting already??

Since you refuse to do anything besides rant and repeat your previous, refuted claims, there is little for anyone to do.

I achieved my AGENDA! Getting the heads up, giving some information...

Yes. You've successfully publicized your fringe claim website and acquired the required rejection from the mainstream to make you credible to your audience. Go in peace.

This is bigger than even those in here to solve or debunk.

It's big only because you've made it big through irresponsible, unfounded speculation. The nugget of the issue are three obviously fake photographs. The rest is just hype.

Why do I have the feeling this is being monitored by powers not in just this forum?

Because you're paranoid.

But you ignore the obvious!

Pareidolia. Begging the question. In all your bluster you simply have not risen above that.

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MR - I don't really follow you, but are you saying there is some "insider" who has all these answers? Well, what are the rest of us supposed to do about that, especially if you won't tell us this person's name?

Then come back here when you are ready to reveal it; until then there is really nothing to talk about.

MR - I did look at your blog and your other links (except the videos) and I see nothing that makes me even begin to question the idea that there is more than one "face" on Mars and that it is anything other than a natural formation. It is up to you to convince us otherwise, not the other way around.

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Kai... You said...
"Draw him out? Draw who out?"

Read the post again! You will learn & see who that person IS!

MarsRevealer, I suggest you not take others to task for the obstacles you place in the path of comprehension by your affected writing style. Write plainly, or not at all.

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Is it the guy whose nickname on this board sounds like a sandwich?

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Swift... I care less what you think these Faces are. This aint about what you think, if real or fake. To me I am satisfied & secure in my rationale they are real. Big Deal again! I am not wanting to argue about it. Though I have a biut & will & could. ;-)

But this is about trying to get the truth! The truth that SOMEONE is keeping secret that is supposed to be the one showing & telling.

Richard C. Hoagland!!!

Even if I told you this INSIDERS Name, he will NOT comment on it, unless & until, we are ready. Otherwise I would have posted his name. :-/

Out of respect for him, & to allow what he had to say to show you all,... It was a fair trade!!

Especially for me. ;-)

You are just supposed to take notice, make notes need be, & allow this to run it's course. One way or the other, we will get to the Truth! That is what I am trying to tell you all!

Utah?? It is posts & comments like that which is why I do not reply to you respectfully. You show none, you get none from me. :-/

Your points that do makes sense, & serious, is noted also. Happy?! ;-)

The points arisen about why they are fakes is also noted. Much appreciation into work effort to use the data to try to show your claims. That counts as more respectable to allow an opinion to consider. ;-) The data!

It NOT proves anything... yet! One way or the other ay? But more supportive to the fact they are real is given. So Far. yet to not everyones satisfactions. Including mine.

But I do believe they are real. Again,... Big Deal!!! :-/

Well if you what RCH to take notice, why not go to the Enterprise Mission and contact him there, I very much doubt that he reads this board.

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We don't like him either. Have you seen this thread?

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He has been given notice & direct attention to this... long ago! By me also!

In Fact, much he did to prevent me from getting answers from him, because he not wanted anyone to see or notice what it was saying... about HIM! Think about it more deeplyyyyy!