I was shocked while viewing tourist website for Mauna Kea, an island of Hawaii, that there was a reference to the Apollo lunar lander being tested there. This is one of the most remote places on Earth. It is rocky, barren, and arid with an altitude of 13,796 ft. Many people describe it as being on Mars. The first road made through the area was built in 1964 around the time of Apollo. Also, I noticed that the landscape looks strikingly similar to the moon landscape pictures at Hadely Pille from Apollo 15. Did they really test the lunar lander on a remote island in Hawaii? Never heard of this.

A link would've been good here.

The book Taking Science to the Moon, says "At Mauna Kea the staff had prepared a series of traverses around the volcano's summit that would approximate those the crew would follow on the lunar surface."

But, "Putty Mills had modified a local jeep to use as a simulated LRV, a cheaper and less sophisticated version of the Grover and other LRV training vehicles."Hadley Rille

It's Hadley Rille.

Before I go around trying to find information on this, is this going to be a thread you actively participate in or will it be another one of your single-post driveby threads?

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The website was www.americasroof.com/hi.shtml. Just an account of trip to Mauna Kea and the most "dangerous paved road in Hawaii". Where they have an army base at Pokahuloa. Apparently, there's the threat of being hit by artillary shells and the rental contracts on vehicles are void if you travel on Saddle Road.

I would say the latter...SLF has unanswered questions on other threads he has started, so I see no reason why he would change now.

Just a "slight" bit of investigation would have helped here. I get the impression that you are doing none.

The only mention I could find on that page relating to the astronauts was this

That doesn't say anything about the LM being tested there. Am I missing something?

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I was just sitting here contemplating the immortal words of Socrates who said, "I drank what?"

"Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot." --Carl Sagan "Pale Blue Dot"

I couldn't find the reference to the Apollo program or the lander. Help?Ah, thanks. That must have been it.

Looks like a misinterpretation, especially in light of the book extract I mentioned earlier

So SLF, is there any chance you're going to try and support your claim that Haldey Rille is actually Mauna Kea as the title of this thread suggests?

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I was just sitting here contemplating the immortal words of Socrates who said, "I drank what?"

"Think of the rivers of blood spilled by all those generals and emperors so that, in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters of a fraction of a dot." --Carl Sagan "Pale Blue Dot"

Yeah, sure he will...

I would be shocked if he did...

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I have to assume that SLF was not being serious about the claim at the top, and was simply pointing out that at least one of the pictures there reminded him of the hills behind Hadley Rille. In any case, I'm closing this thread, because there have been some complaints about loss of decorum. If someone has anything worthwhile to add, please PM me and let me know what you want to add, and I might open the thread again.

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