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This is a recycled version of this MM-OP'd thread, which was eventually locked.

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Similarities NOT a coincidence.

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Europe moon "photo" from Galileo, since despite "19,000 pictures" no "photos" of Europe here...
http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/image/jupiter.html

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From there.

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umm...

Moo?

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Even with the best optics, a photo of Europe from Jupiter space wouldn't be very informative.

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So are you trying to say that Europa is covered in human skin?

Matt, putt down those new silly claims.
Stay with your first and provide evidence.

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What? Are you trying to say Galileo never went to Jupiter because there are no photos of Europe on that page?

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Or do you claim that there are no newer pictures of Europa than the ones made by Galileo?
Well this one is from New Horizons (2007)
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpeg/PIA09361.jpg

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Well, I never went to Jupiter and I don't have any pictures of Europe, so following his reality, it makes sense.

This is another thread that has someone posting, barely readable, and providing no facts...followed by a thousand "show some evidence posts". Basically just like 90% of the other threads. Make me a forum mod, I'll take care of this

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Now, Now Everyone coming to BAUT should be allowed the opportunity to "present" their case even if it is a forgone conclusion that they have no "case" to make.

Although I do agree that the "answer" to all of this is space cows.

Moo...

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mad cow disease in space?

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It's amazing. I try to understand the OP's posts and the links he provides, but all I get out of it is:

"Chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken..."

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And he's offline... guess those answers will have to come another time.

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Mattmaeriott,

The link you provided and your 1/2/3 summation in no way whatsoever answered my question asking what they did with new horizons after launch (where it went to)and how they tricked people into believing it did go into deep space. These probes can be tracked you know. Seen. Heard. "just saying" will not fool the "sheeple", because some of them are tracking these craft. If they're not where they say they are, they will speak up. That hasn't happened.

So, once again:

Explain with evidence what happened to New Horizons after launch and how they managed to make it seem it did go into deep space.

No vague link with an unrelated story, clear answers backed up with evidence.

Thanks.

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And also once again, what is your reply to:

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Well, since we are reviewing what we want Matt to answer, I'll go back to Nicolas' questions.

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Matt,

If a bunch of 13 yr olds in 1977 (me and class mates) could get a small 2 foot long model rocket to 50 miles into the atmosphere, I'm fairly certain that NASA can get thier big rockets to whatever planet they aim them at.

Your statement, "Never did any Soviet Union or US "spacecraft" leave the orbit of the Earth, " Is just outright ridiculous.

Model Rocketry in is these days is just as prevelent, reaching alitutdes of 85 miles, right on the edge of making it into space. Typically this is done through high powered LF engines, instead of the solid motors of the hobbyist.

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With "orbit of the Earth" I meant "orbit around the Earth".

Transfer orbits to the Moon are still primarily orbits around Earth. So you'll need a better definition of what you consider to be hoaxed.

What about geostationary orbits? Those are geocentric orbits of significant altitude, but relatively straightforward geometry. Nevertheless a considerable amount of expertise and energy are required to put large spacecraft there and operate them for up to 15 years under a variety of conditions. Are they hoaxed too?

Have you actually studied how space operations are done? Or are you just throwing rocks at things you don't understand?

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No Satellites...
Now, where do all those Meteosat pictures come from....

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The Illumi-naughty must be pasting pictures of spacecraft over the lenses of all the telescopes of people who "observe" them from Earth! It's all so clear now...

(Oops, forgot my medication again. Soon it will seem less believable.)

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I've never seen people laugh so hard at chicken.
I admit I even chuckled a bit...

What the hell has that to do with the article where I exposed the "Skylab's fiery fall" hoax with exactly the opposite evidence of what you are stating?

As far as Nicolas's question, we have three cases:

You seem to omit any case that doesn't presume the existence of a conspiracy. Circular and tautological. If you unable to face the possibility of being wrong, then there is no point to saying you're right.

How about the category of people who disagree with your claims and who have the appropriate knowledge to substantiate their disagreement? I've worked on designs for machines that have put objects beyond low Earth orbit. I'm wondering what evidence you have that will prove to me that I haven't.

Imagine going to the circus and looking up with amazement at the tightrope walker. It's natural to be incredulous at such feats. But it doesn't matter whether the ringmaster is a pedophile or whether the concession stand is watering down the soda. It doesn't change the fundamental physics of tightrope walking; nor does it constitute proof that the acrobat isn't really doing what he appears to do -- especially to the acrobat. To people who actually know about space exploration, your claims sound no more credible than: "My soda tastes flat, therefore you're not really walking the tightrope."

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Don't kid yourself, Matt. You have provided us with zero evidence.

Provide evidence or retract your claim(s).

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Matt, you said that mankind has never sent an object out of Earth orbit. What is your evidence...we're still waiting.
Is it physically or technologically impossible? What's your story? You are babbling and evading.

I remember that one. One of his claims was that CNN faked the second plane.

No need for me to read this any further. Once I step in online bull, I clean my shoes and watch where I step the next time.

Matt Marriott, the only hoax I see is your ridiculous, disturbing, self important blog. If anyone feels brave, he has multiple examples.

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Indeed, and if there are no geostationary sats, where did this AMATEUR picture of a geostationary sat come from?



Or how about this image of the genesis spacecraft that left earth orbit to go collect particles from the sun? This picture was taken as the spacecraft was still over a day from returning to earth, and 285,000 kilometers away (incredible when you think about it, and also taken by an amateur using an LX200)



Even better, how was it that amateurs were able to record pictures of apollo 8 on the way to the moon? After trans-lunar injection a fuel dump was performed from the expended S-IVB stage, making the spacecraft highly visible, even without a telescope:



So here's the evidence that spacecraft have travelled beyond low earth orbit, all courtesy of private citizens; people who are not part of the government, and therefore have no reason to participate in some super-secret illuminati conspiracy. So where's your evidence matt?

MattMarriot.

It normally is not in our nature to deliver warnings.

After-all we take pride in our sense of humor.

However, your exposure to our greatest secrets is causing discord, dissent, distress and some other d-word I can't think of at the moment among us.

Our ability to fool the sheeple is being compromised by your insightful brilliance.

We are not pleased...

Snickering... But still displeased (There's a d-word! I rock!)

Therefore, given light (pun-intended or not- depending on if you can figure out whether I'm misleading you to believe either way...) of your actions we issue the following warning:

Warning!

Cease, desist, detract and other cool words your activity at once.

Our tolerance is at an end. So is the world but that is in another thread.

Re all posts up to now showing how farfetched these claims are:

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If it's anything like his other threads, he'll tire quickly and stop posting, then maybe a page of posts until a mod will lock it.

Perhaps this time we can arrive at a more definitive "conclusion"?

I hate to think he'll just do what he has done previously...wait a while and start a new thread.

Matt...provide evidence or retract your claim(s).

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