Never did any Soviet Union or US "spacecraft" leave the orbit of the Earth.
So what was the ultimate goal of the pyramid of lies known as Space Travel?

The ultimate goal of the Space Travel Hoax lies beyond the feasibility agenda, i.e. the conquest of the Universe, as proof of godlike illuminati.
The ultimate goal is nothing but a consequence of the BIG LIE technique, the base for illuminati control.
The ultimate goal, now revealed worldwide first, was to produce "evidence" (1) to cover up the hoax at the base of the pyramid of lies:
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Soviet Union's Luna 1 "spacecraft" hoax, early 1959, marks the begin of the relevant stage for implementing the ultimate goal.
It did not take long before the first "evidence" supporting the ultimate goal was produced, October 1959, using the Luna 3 "spacecraft" for the Moon.
The process was completed with the the first "evidence" from NASA Voyager 1 "spacecraft" for Jupiter, January 1979.

Please provide a coherent story with a clearly defined claim, supported by clearly explained evidence.

What you posted here seems copy/paste work, I can't find beginning or end in it.

What do you claim? Is all spaceflight fake? All manned spaceflight? All spaceflight beyond earth orbit? All manned spaceflight beyond earth orbit? Do you consider lunar orbit to be beyond earth orbit? you use terms as space travel and beyond earth orbit as if they're the same; please use clearly defined terms.

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I wouldn't bother. Check the OP's other posts. Everything's a hoax and a big illuminati plot, including stellar parallax and continental drift.

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In addition, please provide all relevant evidence you possess. And welcome to the BAUT forum! Please take the time to visit the AboutBAUT section, and familiarize yourself with the rules here. We're a tad stricter than most boards you may be accustomed to. Enjoy your stay!

Oh, and don't forget that evidence thing

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Who revealed what?

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Sure it is a hoax.
Some gazillions of turtles are pushing the land masses around!

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Check out his home web page as well

(Warning there is some pop up, but thankfully the slowness of our network at work meant it timed it out)

he is also a 9/11 conspiracy theorist

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With "orbit of the Earth" I meant "orbit around the Earth".

So whether I think the ISS/MIR/Skylab is a hoax or not is not relevant for this discussion.

Well, so give us something to discuss.

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Guess all that GPS data from geostationary satellites must be faked somehow. I mean, from geostationary to further out is such a long leap, isn't it?

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So you mean all probes to (orbit or land) the moon, the planets and interplanetary are faked.

All Luna's. All Voyagers. All Pioneers. Everything related to Apollo. All Vikings. Both MERS. Any other Mars mission. Venus Express. Cassini. Huygens. Giotto. etcetcetc Also New Horizons, being on its way at the moment. And the japanese moon mission, also happiily flying around as we speak. That one made a nice video of leaving earth orbit too...

All these missions have returned data about things we can't control -the properties of planets. That means that if anyone really measures these properties, previous hoaxes would be relealed. In other words, you claim that people have done hoaxes by the dozens, none of which have any chance of being kept under the carpet.

Pretty weak position to start from, so kindly provide very firm evidence that these missions are faked indeed.

Please answer this direct question too: if New Horizons is not out of earth orbit, where did it go after launch? How did they manage nobody noticing it is not out of earth orbit?

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Those darned illuminati...always spoiling our fun.

Seriously, though...please provide evidence or withdraw your claim.

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Are they illuminati turtles??

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As "orbit around the Earth" is "a little" imprecise, could you give a distance beyond which your doubts start?

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No, they are illuminated turtles...

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They're Teenage Mutant Ninja illuminati Turtles.

They all crashed against the crystal dome the Sun, Moon, planets and stars are affixed to. Any "radio transmissions" were created by flat-Earth-based sources, or beamed from within the Earth through the polar holes.

Come on, it's obvious!



Let's see, "...exposed worldwide first by Matt Marriott". That phrase rings a bell. Wasn't this guy (or his brother, who perhaps shares his socks) on earlier with another "exposed first" claim?

Meanwhile, go Terps!

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The Moon orbits the Earth, so Matt's "disbelief" in Moon probes is rather irrational.

Not really a "surprise", though.

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Nicolas question "if New Horizons is not out of earth orbit, where did it go after launch? How did they manage nobody noticing it is not out of earth orbit?"

Laguna2 question - As "orbit around the Earth" is "a little" imprecise, could you give a distance beyond which your doubts start?

Laguna2, you deducted that I don't question ISS/MIR/Skylab, all the way to Space Shuttle. That's not the case.
http://illuminati-jokes.blogspot.com...rash-1979.html

As far as Nicolas's question, we have three cases:
- (1) the people that are part of the conspiracy, i.e. all the illuminati governments, from Japan to Germany.
- (2) the people who are not part of the conspiracy and could put an end to it but did not.
- (3) the sheeple.

As far as case 3), the previous link explains it.
As far as (2) it all resumes to Vladimir Putin and Russia, NOT to be confused with the Soviet Union of the period mentioned in first post, i.e. 1959-1979.
This link explains how Putin has already threatened to do it in June but for tactical reasons pushing the button was once again delayed:
http://nasa-hoaxes.blogspot.com/2007...ts-end-to.html

How about the Deep Impact probe? Went to a comet and hit it, producing a flash observed from earth by lots of astronomers, professional and amateur. All the launch and navigation technology for planetary missions clearly demonstrated. How was that faked?

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So none of the spacecrafts left the orbit of Earth.

What have you got to show the generally accepted theory wrong? What have you got to make your theory more plausible than the generally accepted?

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Matt, provide evidence or withdraw your claim(s).

It as simple as that...

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Illuminati jokes???

I always thought that "jokes" were suppose to have a humorous aspect to them.

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So you're happy that great big Space-Shuttles can reach earth orbit OK.

So what's stopping smaller probes (like Voyager or Viking or ..... well, just about anything) from going further out ? Including out of orbit altogether?

This is pretty much though not entirely covered by what other people have asked but still IMO needs asking: What prevents space travel beyond Earth orbit?

And something that no one else has asked yet why continue the hoax of travel beyond Earth orbit when 99% of the world would barely notice let alone care if there had never been a mission beyond Earth orbit (or even to Earth orbit) and those that would notice would need to be in on the hoax anyway?

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What the hell has being not accurate in telling where skylab will hit to do with being unable to put something up in orbit or "beyond"?

Matt, provide evidence or admit that you have none.

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He does seem to be reading this thread, by the way. Maybe he's typing up a response.

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From link:
While staging their hoaxes the illuminati include jokes. This is a way to prove their point: their sheep = human cattle.

So who is laughing at these jokes? The illuminati or the "human cattle"?

Is that all?... I was kinda hoping you would, address the questions or something like that...

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I would assume people like yourself who have decided that there is a conspiracy.
Edit to add...personally, I don't find the "need" to be ignorant of space travel to be in any way funny.


Once again...provide evidence or withdraw your claim(s).

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