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Fired NASA Whistleblower to Reveal New Apollo Secrets Kept Classified by Space Agency for Over 40 Years.
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I'll refrain from commenting on the rest of it, but being a "Solar System Ambassador" isn't all that prestigious - it's a one-year volunteer position doing public outreach for JPL.
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This is simply more of Hoagland's (and company's) characteristic inflation of affiliations, honors, and credentials, much like his self-award of the Angstrom Medal (of which he is the sole awardee), likely in the hope that it would be confused with the prestigious Angstrom Prize, for which Hoagland is ineligible and didn't win.
The Solar System Ambassador program is hardly prestigious. Anyone with an interest in space exploration can become one. The Solar System Ambassadors are simply people who volunteer as local resources for space-related education, and thus appropriately identified by NASA's PR department. The only requirement for affiliation is the submission of a biography and contact information to NASA Headquarters, so that requests for local help can be dispatched accordingly. One does not actually need even to do anything. There is no education or experience requirement to becoming a Solar System Ambassador. It's more for the benefit of the participant than for NASA. Since Johnston is clearly biting the hand that feeds him, his severance from the Ambassador's program is hardly unexpected. Johnston apparently has little more than his word for his claim that he was ordered to destroy original NASA data from Apollo. Alleged insiders with allegedly never-before-seen Apollo data that no one else has ever seen or heard of, and about which everyone else is supposedly sworn to secrecy, is the biggest scam in the book. From the reader's point of view there is nothing that differentiates that from someone simply having made stuff up. |
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First of all, my eyes!! (enterprisemission link). The background interferes with the text in ways I never thought possible, and on top of that there's Capitals Being Used as far as the eye can see.
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I could have made it if I'd known about it ahead of time. How disappointing to miss one of the truly Earth-shaking events of our time.
(Pauses briefly to collect himself) Darn, looks like I missed the "Monsters from Congress" press conference too.
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Hoagland and Bara have actually written some of the better attacks on the Moon landing hoaxers. Of course, it's to defend their claim that the astronauts found alien technology on the Moon.
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I bet Hoagwash found the secret photos in Patrick Star's secret box, while wearing his secret socks, and watching his secret TV channel on his secret TV... SECRETLY!
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Yes because they think that a) the Apollo missions had to be real for them to use them to find their artifacts and b) because they claim that such theorys are so dumb that they hurt genuine conspriacy theories, like theirs.
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I find it humourous to see how many "secrets" just happen to find their way into Hoagland's hands..for him to expose, of course
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Oklahoma City University appears to be a liberal arts college. It does not currently offer an Aerospace Engineering degree, nor does it currently offer any engineering curricula -- accredited or otherwise. Since few are the schools who teach aerospace engineering, and fewer still the schools who offer accredited programs, I wonder if any of Mr. Johnston's education turns out to be real and relevant.
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They are in a secret location.
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Most of the major news groups probably did not cover it, googled Hoagland and Johnston, found only coast to coast had anything out. I can just see a lot of people coming here with youtube videos.
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Surveyor 1 landed on June 2, 1966. It returned nearly 11,000 frames before it ceased activity on the 14 July.
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I think 10, 986 is close enough to 11,000, but the cters might claim alot of infomation out those 14 frames.
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If there's a good thing to come of this, it may be to expose the "Ambassador" program to tens of thousands of enthusiastic people who would have otherwise not known about it, and thereby generates grassroots interest in NASA, Space Exploration, and Astronomy
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Let's see, "Dr. Ken Johnston,...Solar System Ambassador (SSA) and Richard Hoagland,...CBS News Science Science Advisor [SSA]..." Man, it's a good thing I've noticed how dyslexic my typing has become and made a couple corrections before posting this.
Meanwhile, get yer scorecards, get yer scorecards, ya can't tell the SSAs without a scorecard!
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Dyslexia yeah right, no you would not type something like thst on purpose.
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I'm not sure, but this may Oklahoma *State* University. It apparently has several campuses over the state, and one of those does offer aerospace engineering.
Gordon Cooper received an honorary Ph.D. from there, and note the bio here lists it as "Oklahoma City University": http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios/htmlbios/cooper-lg.html It's possible that it may have been called that in the past, or that may be a common, but unofficial name. -Richard |
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"The Solar System Ambassador program is hardly prestigious. Anyone with an interest in space exploration can become one."
I'm surprised to hear this claim, as the one Solar System Ambassador I know is a very knowledgeable amateur astronomer who does several public presentations every month with a special focus on the Mars rovers and Cassini mission to Saturn, all of which are very well attended. He has also worked with an international team that published Mars images on the covers of Aviation Week and Space Technology magazines and has written an article on the rovers for The Explorers Club in NY. His knowledge of and love for astronomy are impressive to say the least. He is also in regular communication with NASA personnel on these unmanned missions. From his qualifications alone, I would assume Solar System Ambassadors must meet significant standards in astronomical knowledge and understanding to be given these positions. |
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I'm surprised to hear this claim, as the one Solar System Ambassador I know is a very knowledgeable amateur astronomer...
No doubt he is. I don't mean to disparage the program or its participants. The local SSAs in my area are also dedicated to space exploration and are good people. What I mean is that the program is voluntary and open to a wide variety of people, thus not necessarily as selective and rigorous (in the appropriate way) as other opportunities might be. I suppose prestige is subjective and varies, but I would consider membership in professional organizations, ASME or AIAA for example, to be of greater prestige. From his qualifications alone, I would assume Solar System Ambassadors must meet significant standards in astronomical knowledge and understanding to be given these positions. Actual qualifications differ from participant to participant. Ambassadors are trained after selection; they don't necessarily have to come to NASA with the appropriate knowledge of space missions. They just have to present a viable PR plan. Here is the official description. http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/ambassador/AO.html The problem with Mr. Johnston is that he doesn't seem to bring any credible qualifications to the post; instead he's trying to use SSA membership as the qualification itself. That's what's fishy to me. |
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