Many have asked what it must be like for these people who know the truth about the moon landing and UFO's. But do they really want the answer? Searching for truth with the government on your tail is not easy.

And while this may not seem like it relates to astronomy right off the bat, you can't deny it because conspiracy theoriests are always right and when they say it's all connected from Jack Ruby to Roswell to Watergate to Apollo to the Philidephia experiment to the face on mars to the freckles on Henry Kissinger's backside... it all fits.. it fits so well it has to be truer than true.

That's why they sent neil to the fake moon to change the face before anyone could find out.

Here's a look inside this world, but be warned. Once you know the troof, you can't go back: http://depletedcranium.com/?p=174

So the remote possibility of discovering alien life via UFO sightings is equal to a moon landing hoax accusation?

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"The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination." - Albert Einstein

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/au..._einstein.html

Critical thinking and evidence. Rationalizing the science behind the absurd is a trait, whether it be about UFO's or the CIA injecting pigs with mind control drugs.

So the remote possibility of discovering alien life via UFO sightings is equal to a moon landing hoax accusation?

In my opinion the notion that UFO sightings heretofore are explained by alien visitation is on par with the notion that the evidence for a Moon landing is explained by a hoax.

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Clavius Moon Base

This is why I think that some CTers have cognition issues (ie: they are at least partially insane). Seeing connections between completely unrelated things can be a sign that one's cognition is failing and is usually not a good sign, at least for those that like to keep a sharp connection to reality. Apophenia can be an early sign that one's brain is going nuclear.

(About apophenia, as contrasted to pareidolia)
"The term was coined in 1958 by Klaus Conrad, who defined it as the "unmotivated seeing of connections" accompanied by a "specific experience of an abnormal meaningfulness"."
http://www.reference.com/browse/wiki/Apophenia

That is my opinion too. But that is not what i was talking about.

If you ask a science man about the posibilty of an alien craft landing on earth and presenting to the world,he will say that the posibility is there, very remote, higly improbable, but is there; even if not one single piece of scientific evidence supports that ufo sightings to this day are from alien origin.

On moon landing hoax theories, there are no open posibilities, because it is a past event, and it has been proven to be 100% real.

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http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/au..._einstein.html

On moon landing hoax theories, there are no open posibilities, because it is a past event, and it has been proven to be 100% real.

I disagree. The evidence we have now is entirely consistent with the Moon landings being real, and all the proposals for fakery that we've seen so far fail quickly under examination. But we cannot say it is 100% impossible for the Moon landings to have been faked. Just as with alien life, we cannot know what the future holds. It is highly improbable in my opinion that evidence will appear that shows a hoax hypothesis to be more likely to explain the Apollo evidence than genuine missions; but that's what we said about future alien contact explaining past UFO sightings.

Admittedly we're dealing with very small, subjective impressions of probability. So it's probably not helpful to quibble over which one is more than the other.

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Clavius Moon Base

I see your point, i agree 100%.

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Hmmm, either I was reading a different thread, or this one took one post to get derailed. What the heck to Aliens and Apollo have to do with the OP and the spoof of the NWS being in on a conspiracy to hide the real temperature?

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It must be fun to lead a life completely unburdened by reality. --- JayUtah

You can't reason an irrational person out of an irrational belief. --- Noclevername

Apollo: The History and the Hoax
Enter the World of Athran

Completely outside of space, anothe example of ct logic. We recieve a bunch of prank calls over a peroid of months, the local cter thinks it is the hotel company we represent is hiring another company to ruin our conversion rate.
We get a bonus based of the conversion rate.

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Contact Carl Sagan

http://davidsuniverse.wordpress.com/

The NWS? Oh yeah. It's just the NWS. Sure. Right... no... EVERYTHING the government says is wrong. IT may be the NWS one day but others it's nasa or something else.

It all comes down to freemasons and that's why you need to pay masons. You can never trust a freemason so if one comes and offers to build you a fireplace for free, you say no. Just pay for honest work.

Just like the gobment won't pay to tell us the stuff about WTC7 or apollo. They probably built the damn building on the moon just so that they could tear it down to preserve their image. Yeah, go destroy evidence of the face on mars will you?

The NWS, the USGS, the department of housing and urban development, Nasa, FEMA, the NIST, the US department of federal highways, the air force, the coast guard, the ATF, the US Fish and Game service.... they all want you to think we're on the moon. Meanwhile, there's trouble brewing. What is it?

We don't know. But we know there's something up.

If there weren't why do they try so hard to cover their backsides? Yeah, you don't lie unless you have something to hide... or everything to hide!

Usually preceded by the Famous Last Words:- "Aha! It's all sooo clear to me now..."

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I posted this on a board full of CT's.

Hilarity ensued.

I was accused of being a shill for "them" and called a jew.

They don't realize how funny they are.

Happens to me all the time You should see my inbox

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"I have this theory that the Apollo missions were faked when NASA found out that general relativity was wrong because the Earth was expanding due to the Sun's iron core being influenced by magnetic waves from the electric universe after being perturbed by Planet X and thereby causing global warming. Where should I start a thread about this?" ~ ToSeek

"Those are the people that wonder how a thermos knows whether to keep something hot or keep something cold." ~ NeoWatcher

I always say, Being a CT is easy, you can make stuff up, and when disproven, you just make new stuff up and accuse everyone of being in on the conspiracy.

I was called a "shill" a "liar" and something inappropriate for the BAUT simply for posting a two-paragraph explanation on how shutter speed works.

I wasn't sure whether I should laugh or weep about that. It's funny and sad at the same time. Laughably pityful might be a good way to describe it.

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I thought trying to get inside a cters head was something akin to looking on at the sune without eye protection.

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If it's just us, it seems like an awful waste of space.
Contact Carl Sagan

http://davidsuniverse.wordpress.com/

I think dunking your head in raw sewage might be a better metaphor.

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"Any Sufficiently Analyzed Magic is Indistinguishable from SCIENCE!" -Agatha Heterodyne

"Any technology, no matter how primitive, is magic to those who don't understand it." -Florence Ambrose

I thought trying to get inside a cters head was something akin to looking on at the sune without eye protection.

Former FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover supposedly said, "Don't try to think like a psychopath because then we'll have to worry about you."

Trying to get into the head of a CTer is an exercise in madness.

I actually got a kid to stop his 2012 delusions by saying "Oh, puh-leez" and then launching into an explaination. It took the "oh, puh-leez" to get his attention.

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I want to go back to the moon.
I don't care which rocket you use, whichever one you pick, I'll like it, I swear.
"If you think the LHC will create black holes, you might as well believe Hobbits are at the bottom of your garden."- Dr. Mike Inglis
Rovers forever! - ToSeek

It's funny how a completly unpredictable moment can make a profound difference.

I can't count on both hands how many times in my life someone said something quite innocent, that grabbed my attention and completly changed everything.

I knew a guy who worked as a phone salesman for MCI. His big sales kicker wasn't about informing people about their product or offers or special deals...

After a while he would simply say, "Aw, C'MON! What have you got to lose?!"
It wasn't what he said so much as HOW he said it. Hard to describe in type- But it worked like a charm. So much so that he would fill out the screen ahead of time and alredy be ready to transfer them to third party verification- so certain he was that the sale was closed.

Perhaps I should appear completely ignorant and sign up for a TV debate with a well-known woo-woo, then do the "oh, puh-leez!" and my explaination.
Kind of like a high-class version of Borat.
At least, I think, I didn't watch that movie, only read the reviews.

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I want to go back to the moon.
I don't care which rocket you use, whichever one you pick, I'll like it, I swear.
"If you think the LHC will create black holes, you might as well believe Hobbits are at the bottom of your garden."- Dr. Mike Inglis
Rovers forever! - ToSeek

Now that´s what i call a sales speech.

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"The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination." - Albert Einstein

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/au..._einstein.html

Just one word: Thundercougarfalconbird!

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"Transport of the mails, transport of the human voice, transport of flickering pictures - in this century, as in others, our highest accomplishments still have the single aim of bringing men together." St. Exupery

The more dedicated CTs will not accept anything that disproves what they've made up. Doesn't keep them from making up new stuff though, unfortunately.

A few months ago I has the displeasure of listening to a friend who's a computer shop owner and otherwise rational, go on about WTC7. Then I had the pleasure of asking him to state his key points, one by one, each of which I was able to debunk with evidence. He was still rational enough to accept that any chance his CT being viable was remote.

Have done the same with Apollo many times. It's best as a one-on-one (CT BBs are unorganized bedlam and mayhem), you (the CT) state your case(s), and then allow me to evaluate them and bring in applicable objective evidence that debunks them.

BTW, while in New England, I rarely ran into CTs. But here in the South they seem to be crawling out of the woodwork along with the termites, roaches, and fire ants.

I wonder if there's ever been a demographic study done on the distribution of CTs by location, education, and other related factors.

Meanwhile I bet there's a CT site out there somewhere that claims fire ants were introduced in the South by the evil Northerners to try to wipe out the only true 'Murican part of the country.

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You know if you wish to resign from our organization there are procedures. Giving out our ubertopmostsecretdonottell code names is not the way. Kindly ignore the whopwhop sounds you may hear very soon. They are definately not black helicoptors. Just go to sleep, get your rest and be sure to eat all of your nutritious breakfast that you find on your counter when you wake up. Just one of the perks for your long years of service to...you know who...and it's perfectly safe to eat...and very, very yummy.

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You're a coward and a liar and a thOOF - Bart Sibrel

I know I've been making a lot of bad decisions lately,
But I want you to know that I feel much better now,
And that my work will be back to normal.
I still have the greatest enthusiasm for the mission...

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"Transport of the mails, transport of the human voice, transport of flickering pictures - in this century, as in others, our highest accomplishments still have the single aim of bringing men together." St. Exupery

Nice try, bub. I know not to eat strange food.
I watched Snow White.

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I want to go back to the moon.
I don't care which rocket you use, whichever one you pick, I'll like it, I swear.
"If you think the LHC will create black holes, you might as well believe Hobbits are at the bottom of your garden."- Dr. Mike Inglis
Rovers forever! - ToSeek

Don't let them know you're onto them! You should have said, "It was delicious, and don't ask why the dog is acting funny."

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Shakespeare, Twelfth Night
"The Mayan symbol for "book" looks a lot like a triple hamburger, but I've never seen them claiming it as proof the Mayans had Big Macs." - KaiYeves
"Distance doesn’t matter much in space, where if you just start a thing off with the right kind of shove, sooner or later it will get where you want it to go." -Frederik Pohl, Mining the Oort

I did that once at the Latvarian Embassy, except with a drink.
"That plant doesn't look okay, have you been giving it enough sunlight?"

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I want to go back to the moon.
I don't care which rocket you use, whichever one you pick, I'll like it, I swear.
"If you think the LHC will create black holes, you might as well believe Hobbits are at the bottom of your garden."- Dr. Mike Inglis
Rovers forever! - ToSeek