Whats the point of these threads.

[Michael Noonan]

Originally Posted by KaiYeves

I wasn't insulting you, Michael. On another thread, somebody said something about Nancy Lieder, and the next person to post said "Don't say the 'N' word!"
So, as a joke, I quoted "Don't say the 'N' word" and wrote under it:
"Yes, never mention Noodles!"
So now, 'Noodles' is my personal joke.

Thank you KaiYeves, my mistake. I make quite a few and that is why I came here to get in touch with better minds than my own.

I found that reading here taught me so much more about people. Now seeing as this is a conspiracy section perhaps an insight into the way a mind, this one looks at conspiracies. Secrecy is the key to any really good conspiracy ... especially if it involves a government cover up.

So take the conspiracy (one I started or tried to) that radiation is increasing in intensity and so reducing the effective critical mass for an atomic bomb. The advanced technical nations withhold the information so that newly emerging nations might cause a large explosion within their own nuclear facility. This happens because they want the maximum effect for their bombs so they exceed the time safety margins ever so slightly.

The plan works, the new nation with a secretly created bomb sees that it is about to go critical and has just enough time to launch. They decide to drop it in the ocean for safety. They have a choice of two ... the one closest to them or the Mediterranean Sea.

They will be just as roundly condemned which ever one they need to get rid of the missile into and so opt for the Mediterranean Sea. Apart from disturbing a lot of second world war shipwrecks and creating a bit of an environmental disaster ... they don't take into account that nuclear submarines are also in the Mediterranean Sea because every government needs submarines to spy on its friends as well and the emergency launched nuke gets a few of them too.

Well the result is impressive, the effect of their little bomb causes a cascade reaction setting off a large number of other unknown nuclear bombs and thoroughly poisons the whole coastline. Well there is international outrage and typically when an incident happens of that magnitude it isn't long before a counter response occurs.

And that is how a conspiracy gets started by blaming the secrecy and devious intentions of one government for causing a chain reaction of events that ultimately causes a major war to start in another country.

That I think is the reason these threads come about ... but is there any point to them ... that indeed is the question. But is is a peek into the mind of one who reads conspiracies

[Skyfire]

Originally Posted by Donnie B.

Well, if that's a conspiracy, sign me up. I have a pretty high regard for quite a few of my fellow BAUTers.

I'll sign too!

I must say if the OP has read the occasional thread here, rather like I have, with very few posts, I can understand his comments, as that seemed to be the impression I was getting. HOWEVER, once I read the comments by Jay and he reminded me of some of the discussions that have gone on here I have had to revise my thinking, as once reminded of them, I recall many of the posts and threads mentioned. But only once reminded of them. Is it age? Is my memory fialing me? Am I succeptible to suggestion? etc... etc ... ?

Also I notice the OP includes his (presumably?) car as his avatar. Well here's a picture of mine if you are interested!

http://www.headology.pwp.blueyonder....ges/car_01.jpg

This just helps to show the British kit car business is still thriving.

[Van Rijn]

Originally Posted by Skyfire

Also I notice the OP includes his (presumably?) car as his avatar. Well here's a picture of mine if you are interested!

If so, the OP would probably loudly proclaim that he is not a number.

The car is from a famous scene in the series The Prisoner. I remembered the name at one time, but I had to google up that it was the Lotus Seven series II.

[Michael Noonan]

Originally Posted by long live the queeb

Are there any conspiracy believers still posting here.

This whole section seems to consist of a member saying "isn't Bart/ Jack/ Richard stupid, here's a link, lets all laugh at them," then everyone else finding fifty different ways to agree with the original thread starter. Occasionally, someone will say, "no, he is even more stupid than that" and then everyone will agree with him/her............Boring, and repetitive, this isn't debate, its back patting.

My bold
I couldn't agree with you more. By the way Van Rijn well spotted with the car. It is my sense of humour, I couldn't let the OP go without making it a conspiracy in itself. Maybe someone could point what the point is even if only to have a bit of fun.

So while we are at it the next best thing to a government conspiracy is a good church conspiracy. I posted that we face world wide electrocution due to an electric universe idea ... so let's assume that happens and the church need to gain control of the frightened masses works in league with the government (who by the way do have access to time travel ... from Tesla's stolen notes).

They need a Pope, one who is loved and revered. The logical candidate is the one who was poisoned. A dead clone is left in place and the church of the time knowing how he died refuse an autopsy. The switch is simple, the clone programmed only to do exactly the one little task drinks and dies ... or whatever. The 'real' Pope resumes his papacy beyond the thirty days and by inspiration leads the world to a bright new future.

Or how about one of my current favourites, Newton a brilliant thinker was also an end of the world believer. The Mayan calendar was based exactly on the known length of the last cycle of 144,000 whatevers and didn't take into account the need to allow for time distortion. But Newton being brilliant mathematician did. By the year 2060 the scientists have perfected the supercharging of the ceramics to replace the copper in particle accelerators and find enough energy to punch a hole in the fabric of the universe. They are assisted by not fully understanding the 'true' nature of time and space and due to time dilation again could have achieved the same results just a few short years later with the ordinary copper actuators.

Or then again there is Illuminati's Razor by our own very talented Fazor
Illuminati's Razor-The most complicatedly evil answer is usually the most correct answer. - Fazor
So with this one we can implicate the governments of the world and an ultra secret community dedicated to bringing Hitler to justice. But of course the plan goes wrong and another government wants him too and so go back and collect him before he gets abducted from the bunker. Without his assistance the generals have no option but to win the war and the whole of history needs to be rewritten from early to mid 1940's onwards and my post if it exists in this new timeframe will of course be written in German.

Or we might just see the rise of the third anti-christ as a rather boring and ineffective path to appeasement (now where did I get that from ... I wonder).

So I don't really know if any real conspiracy types are posting here anymore. I will say this though ... it is not like there is a shortage of material to work with. Which means (if they are not posting and taking on the community here for the hard hitting, tough question asking no nonsense scientific community it is) then they are just plain scared or lazy because I haven't even started on UFO's or crop circles yet (oh hang ... oh no that wasn't in this section if I recall correctly ).

[Skyfire]

Originally Posted by Van Rijn

If so, the OP would probably loudly proclaim that he is not a number.

The car is from a famous scene in the series The Prisoner. I remembered the name at one time, but I had to google up that it was the Lotus Seven series II.

Ah! My bad for not recognising it! Obviously because the picture is too small! ... and nothing to do with the fact that last time I visited the optician he suggested I needed reading glasses ....

[Michael Noonan]

Originally Posted by Skyfire

Ah! My bad for not recognising it! Obviously because the picture is too small! ... and nothing to do with the fact that last time I visited the optician he suggested I needed reading glasses ....

I love the signatures you have chosen Skyfire

The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not Eureka! (I found it!) but rather, 'hmm.... that's funny...'
- Isaac Asimov

Are we alone in the Universe? Are we the only intelligent life? Who knows? But the universe is so BIG, it somehow seems such a waste of space if we are ....

These actually provide a lead into one of the best conspiracies of all. The human race through an absolute load of mistakes advanced way too fast in their knowledge of physics ... long before they fully learned to contain the destructive nature of the human spirit. So an organisation was (or will be) formed and the whole earth is safely enclosed in a gigantic planetary shell.

This actually happened some thousands of years ago because this altruistic organisation aware of our need for protecting the past (our past is accessible by other less altruistic beings, if you can believe that such a thing might be possible). With such illuminated and forward thinking ... they naturally became known among the select and secret few as the Illuminati (Latin you see ).

There mission is one of utmost secrecy and their cover must never be blown. So you didn't hear it from me ... right. Now only those in the know, you know people with access to space technology and telescopes and government leaders are in the loop so to speak. So once many millenia ago the moon landings were real and life was normal and so to deny they actually once occurred is quite wrong really.

But now the problem is that one reality is the real one that occurred and so many millions of the other secretly preserved realities are hidden in vast constructed planetary shells ... it is for our own good you see. So that one day we might ... just might advance far enough and not harm our timeline sufficiently to emerge into the far distant future fully prepared to face and seek our rightful place back in the universe of the living.

Hang on what is this wire sticking out of the back of my head? Those cheapskates, instead of bothering to create an entire planetary protection system ... we are just bio-globular masses designed to carry on a consciousness until we have advanced enough in mental thought capacity to have that transferred to a nano-constructed shell ready to take our place safely and rightfully back in the future. By then we will have exhausted all the destructive means of harming our past and in some far distant future in some far distant part of the universe get a chance to start again

[KaiYeves]

(Reads Michael Noonan's post)
Was I supposed to understand that?

[Maksutov]

Originally Posted by KaiYeves

(Reads Michael Noonan's post)
Was I supposed to understand that?

Just go with the flow.

Everything will be fine.

Re the point of these CT threads, for the most part, the CTer posts what's hopefully something new, and then we analyze the posted material, which is typically opinions, hearsay, and/or fuzzy/JPEG'd/misinterpreted photos. Usually objective evidence is requested. Sometimes some is provided, more commonly none is forthcoming. Instead accusations of we being "sheeple", gubmint disinformation agents, on the NASA payroll, etc., are hurled and the CTer either stomps off or gets banned.

This pattern has repeated so many times that some of us decide it's better to have some fun than participate in someone's paranoia.

[Michael Noonan]

Originally Posted by Maksutov

Just go with the flow.

Everything will be fine.

Re the point of these CT threads, for the most part, the CTer posts what's hopefully something new, and then we analyze the posted material, which is typically opinions, hearsay, and/or fuzzy/JPEG'd/misinterpreted photos. Usually objective evidence is requested. Sometimes some is provided, more commonly none is forthcoming. Instead accusations of we being "sheeple", gubmint disinformation agents, on the NASA payroll, etc., are hurled and the CTer either stomps off or gets banned.

This pattern has repeated so many times than some of us decide that it's better to have some fun than participate in someone's paranoia.

Thank you Maksutov for explaining it in words far more beautifully put together than I could have hoped for

[Swift]

Originally Posted by long live the queeb

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Boring, and repetative, this is'nt debate, its back patting.

You know, IMHO a little back patting is ok too.

Originally Posted by HypothesisTesting

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I agree with the premise that all forum boards should be for serious debate and not silliness, we can go everywhere else in society for the dumb-dumb stuff. I just left a faculty meeting and it seems to me that even there it's rule by the simpletons.

That's funny, I seem to be able to go just about anywhere for seriousness (like meetings at work) and really look forward to some fun in BAUT.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I hang out in this "place" for fun. Sure, a serious scientific debate can be fun too, but who wants it to be completely serious? And some of the CTers and HBers that come here... well, a little fun is really all their ideas are good for.

Sure, the silliness can get a little out of hand at times; well then, just "walk" away. Its a big forum and plenty of room for all tastes.

[Maksutov]

Originally Posted by Michael Noonan

Thank you Maksutov for explaining it in words far more beautifully put together than I could have hoped for

You're welcome.

Thanks for the quote, too. It allowed me to notice a "ww" and a redundant one in the final line, both of which needed editing. Since fixed. It seems, as Mahler did, I never stop revising for clarity.

[Maksutov]

Originally Posted by Swift

You know, IMHO a little back patting is ok too.[edit]Its a big forum and plenty of room for all tastes.

Bullseye, Swift!

[long live the queeb]

Thank you for all the responces, I shall think about what you have said.

In character, "Be seeing you"

[HypothesisTesting]

Originally Posted by Swift

You know, IMHO a little back patting is ok too.


That's funny, I seem to be able to go just about anywhere for seriousness (like meetings at work) and really look forward to some fun in BAUT.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I hang out in this "place" for fun. Sure, a serious scientific debate can be fun too, but who wants it to be completely serious? And some of the CTers and HBers that come here... well, a little fun is really all their ideas are good for.

Sure, the silliness can get a little out of hand at times; well then, just "walk" away. Its a big forum and plenty of room for all tastes.

Well, I agree generally. I just meant that a serious discussion on subjects, with brief comedy slots allowed, would be ideal here at BAUT. I find many of the posters here very knowledgeble and interesting