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Old 17-December-2007, 11:38 AM
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Smile Wayne Green again..Flying Apollo wires?

Has anyone gotten around to debunking this video yet?
quoted from Wayne Green's blog:

"12/10/07

Fakery
A friend forwarded www.brasscheckTV.com/page/228.html for me to see. It's worth a look for anyone who still believes that NASA put a man on the Moon almost forty years ago.
After reading several well-researched books and videos, I wrote Moondoggle, my $5 booklet, #32 in my catalog. The Brasscheck videos confirm the fakery by showing the occasional reflections of light on the wires which allowed the astronauts to bounce around, supposedly on the Moon. "
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Old 17-December-2007, 12:13 PM
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Yes, it was discussed around here, somewhere. They are the antennas on the backpacks and lens flares.
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Old 17-December-2007, 02:04 PM
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What "well-researched books and videos?" None that support the CT can claim to be well-researched, and any that are can't support the CT.

As is evidenced by his claim of wires. Had he done a little research, he'd know better. But then, he wouldn't have a $5 booklet to sell.
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Old 17-December-2007, 02:24 PM
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Default thanks for the info

thanks for the info that this has been discussed here already..
I will search for it, and print the thread and snail mail it to Mr. Green,
whom no longer replies to my emails..
Does any one remember what the title of that thread was? Or please
pm me the link to it..thanks..
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Old 17-December-2007, 02:36 PM
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Start here:
please explain
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Old 17-December-2007, 02:55 PM
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What "well-researched books and videos?" None that support the CT can claim to be well-researched, and any that are can't support the CT.

He's certainly read Percy. When I criticized Wayne Green's first attempt at conspiracism, he used his blog to suggest I needed to broaden my horizons and read Percy's book as he had. He also thinks William Karel's Dark Side of the Moon was a factual documentary.

No; his "well-researched" materials are likely just the same old conspiracist hogwash.

But then, he wouldn't have a $5 booklet to sell.

I think that's closer to the real Wayne Green.
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Old 17-December-2007, 02:56 PM
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My review of Green's previous work. http://www.clavius.org/bibwgreen.html
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Old 17-December-2007, 03:13 PM
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Default Your right Jay..

I have been reading Wayne's blog since the beginning (a couple of years now)..
Recently he wrote that his friend Ralph Renee had sent him a copy of Raph's
new book, supporting the 'FDR let/caused Pearl Harbor' theory..Wayne of course was already a believer in that..
Apparently years ago Wayne began receiving in the mail sample copies of Renee's Percy's ect books read them and quickly became the woowoo he is today..as he mentions in past blogs he began corrosponding with these authors and became friends with all of them..

BTW that's the ticket to become a pet guest on C2C with George Noory and
Art Bell..as Sean David Morton and Ed Dames and beloved Richard Hoaxland are...1. Send George and Art your books/videos which gets you booked for your first appearence. 2. Have dinner with Art and George resulting in Art and George which cements a friendship with them, and bam, your now assured to be a regular guest for life.
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Quote:
"After reading several well-researched books and videos, I wrote Moondoggle, my $5 booklet, #32 in my catalog. The Brasscheck videos confirm the fakery by showing the occasional reflections of light on the wires which allowed the astronauts to bounce around, supposedly on the Moon."
Thinking about the above-quote, consider this; how well-researched is it, when an author basis his book off of other books, when anyone has access to research the films, photos, and equipment used first hand? That's called laziness. And it also shows that his work is not his work, its a compilation of other people's work. That's called plagerism.
I'm sure the author would argue that his works are his own, and are not plagerized. But then you can't take someone else's "work", add your un-supported by fact opinion to it, then still call your work well researched.

(Oh joy, another one of Fazor's far-out similies). Okay, I'm a big Cleveland Browns fan. If I want to write a book about why the 2007 Cleveland Browns are the best team in the NFL, I could read all the articles in the local sports sections; better yet, the sports sections from Cleveland area papers, and then write a booklet based on that plus my personal opinion that these articles are well researched and unbiased.
But player statistics are freely available, and I could just as easily (although with a lot more work on my part) actually research their various achievements and statistics compared to that of the other 31 NFL teams, and then see if it still supports my idea that the Browns are the best (it wouldn't, btw).

Anyway, I don't know if anyone can ever follow my similies, but it's the same thing here. And I know I just said it in another thread last week, but just because someone says that something is supported by facts, or was "well researched", doesn't mean that it was. Unfortunately, no special license is required to use the word "fact", and therefore it gets thrown around by many people who have a poor grasp of what a fact actually is.
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Old 17-December-2007, 04:47 PM
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I've yet to see Green present anything original. He just copies and summarizes others. With that prowess at "research" it's no wonder he can't tell good research from hogwash.
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Who ezz zis Wayne Green?
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He's a guy who founded some good magazines, but then somewhere along the line he became a real woo woo proponent.
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Old 17-December-2007, 11:37 PM
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What magazines? I'm now not sure he's worthy of that previous Calvin and Hobbes reference.
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73 Magazine, aimed at ham radio enthusiasts, for one, and Byte, for another. Then Kilobaud when the Byte staff walked out on him. Followed by some machine-specific publications and apparently a whole bunch of others.

It was late in the game that he "went funny."

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