You missed my point, which was that the sentence ends with a verb, therefore any criticism re ending with a preposition wasn't applicable to that sentence we were talking about.

Sounds like the minister decided to boldly go where no grammarian had gone before.

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Yahoo link doesn´t work.

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"The true sign of intelligence is not knowledge but imagination." - Albert Einstein

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/au..._einstein.html

Shouldn't that be, "the sentence about which we were talking?"

Why can't u lot talk propper, like wot i do

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The above quote has no religious significance whatsoever

science isn't taught in the US as much as it probably should be mostly because it can be hard for some students, and that might lead to them getting poor scores on standardized tests, which will lead to the school getting less money from the state and federal governments, which leads to more teachers per student, which leads to lower test scores, which leads to less government money, which leads to the superintendant and principals leaving the school for a job in another chool district with severance packages that are only in the low 6 figure range..
it's all about money.

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Well, if your school is typical, that's certainly encouraging. Maybe there are just a lot of students who simply weren't paying attention.

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"Scientific progress goes 'boink'?"

Jay, you've been Nowhere Manned!

Perhaps more students per teacher is what you meant here?

Edited to add: Dagnabit, I forgot to mention that the yahoo link doesn't work

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In California, at least when I was a student (I graduated nearly 13 years ago), you had to take health, one year of life sciences (college-track kids generally took biology), and one year of physical sciences (chemistry or physics, generally). We didn't have any science electives at my school except Physics II my junior year and Bio II my senior year. (Both classes had large amounts of the same people.)

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"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"

"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

yeah, i did a couple of edits, and sometimes things get jumbled up in the mind of this under-educated high school drop out.
but me am lerning to be tryin harderer next time..

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I threw that in there to see if someone would pick up on an example of what was being complained about (e.g.).

Bingo!

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LOL!

"If we can put a man on the moon, we can split an infinitive."---Unknown

Well, that's pretty much what I meant by "electives", they were all the continuation classes (or AP) of the few earlier required ones. But that's exactly the sad thing, they shouldn't have been "electives" they should have been "required...atives"

I think the problem is, even in the K-12 education system, they view science as one of those things that only the smart dorky kids will need, and the rest of us will never use it anyway. Which is misguided, to say the least. If people could learn better reasoning and research skills, it will help them in any field they go into.

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"A long time ago, yet somehow in the future"

The version I heard was "That is errant pedantry, up with which I will not put."

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As I recall, my friends petitioned the school to get those AP classes, as they weren't ones that usually got taught. However, every once in a while, a teacher would discuss with the administration the possibility of an AP class that wasn't usually taught (pretty much calculus and English at my school), which is how I ended up taking the AP US history test. (I got a three, which is pretty good since I never actually showed up to any of the classes--I'd taken US history the year before, and the teacher invited me to take the AP test. I got a five on the English one, of course.)

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Gillian

"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"

"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

perhaps the quotations were not a statement on whether or not YOU are real, but on whether or not the "States" are really all that "United"?

just a thought.

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We ought'nt be, but that blast'd fed'ral governmabobby keeps us from goin' to war with'n eachother. Lucky for you Michiganders! (I'm actually rooting for the Wolve's today, but can't watch 'caus my g/f commendered my television).

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I'm like one of those idiot savants...well, except for the savant part.

"A long time ago, yet somehow in the future"

Now that was the very first conspiracy theory on the subject btw. Least ways the first I ever heard. That one goes back to the mid-70's.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nowhere Man Edit to add: Maybe it wasn't Winston after all.

Perhaps he didn't say that one, but when acused of being drunk in the House by Lady Astor he did this one:

"Yes, Madam, I am. But in the morning, I will be sober and you will still be ugly."

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