There seems to be a lot of that stupidity among the UFO visitors.

Something which has always bothered me...if it is not the intention of the aliens to be seen, then why the running lights? They are certainly not needed for crossing interstellar space.

Because the aliens "see" in a different spectrum than us, and therefore think they're invisible.

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I'm like one of those idiot savants...well, except for the savant part.

Just like our craft have those rows of infrared and ultraviolet lights that humans can't see.

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Numbers are not case sensitive. (me)

Yeah, I guess I did.

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Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by ignorance or stupidity.
Isaac Asimov

Exac-it-ed-ly!

(to modify a Chris Rock quote) "We can not win an argument against CT/HBers, because we have this annoying habit when we argue. We are forced to use logic."

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I'm like one of those idiot savants...well, except for the savant part.

Epicycles. It's all epicycles.

When the predictions don't make sense, add more epicycles. And once you have enough epicycles, you end up with aliens who can build interstellar craft, and power them by telepathy, but can't make their craft reliable, and are downed by simple radar, although the records show there were no radar at Roswell, which must mean that it was being tested secretly.

Aliens are stupid, but humans are brilliant (at covering up).

Epicycles, I tell you!

Aliens are stupid, but humans are brilliant (at covering up).


Yes, and humans who use the internet are even more brilliant at uncovering the cover ups. In fact, I can definatively prove that Apollo Creed never landed on the moon, using nothing more than Google, Wikipedia, and MS Paint. Take THAT, NASA.

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I'm like one of those idiot savants...well, except for the savant part.

Proof of above allegation:

This leaked photo from NASA proves that Apollo Creed was much too big to fit into the Apollo Capsule. Even when they stripped him of his space suit and oiled him up, as evidenced in this photo, he simply could not get through the hatch.

However NASA scientists are a stubborn bunch, so they continued to refer to the hoax as the Apollo project. Contrary to popular belief, the "landings" were not filmed in Nevada, but instead filmed in the same studio that shot the Rocky series. They got a discount since they were friends of the fictional character.

Edit: sorry the man blocked my first attempt to post the pic, here it is

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Creed Capsule.GIF (12.3 KB, 11 views)

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I'm like one of those idiot savants...well, except for the savant part.

Well, see. It was teenage aliens who crashed their parents' saucer in Roswell after taking it without permission,

Just kidding.

You write and express your case very well. Do you have a book in the works?

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Olsen the moderator.

I tried to get him to write me one on his interesting tales of American History. He really has a way words, no?

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I'm like one of those idiot savants...well, except for the savant part.

Paraphrasing DHW, from what I remember:
"When I get letters from people who say they are in contact with aliens, the people often tell me I can ask questions of these ETs. When I ask the solution to Fermat's Last Theorem, they are always silent. But when I ask a more general question, like 'Should we be good?' the 'aliens' always have a lot to say."

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"If you think the LHC will create black holes, you might as well believe Hobbits are at the bottom of your garden."- Dr. Mike Inglis
Rovers forever! - ToSeek
"Carl Sagan sent a message to ET,
Neil Armstrong walked in the Sea of Tranquility
Steve Squyers built Spirit and Opportunity
Dan Haylen upchucked in zero gravity." -Brent Simon, The Space Camp Song

That sounds like a quote from Carl Sagan's /The Demon Haunted World: Science as A Candle In the Dark/.

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Olsen the moderator.

That's what DHW stands for.

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"If you think the LHC will create black holes, you might as well believe Hobbits are at the bottom of your garden."- Dr. Mike Inglis
Rovers forever! - ToSeek
"Carl Sagan sent a message to ET,
Neil Armstrong walked in the Sea of Tranquility
Steve Squyers built Spirit and Opportunity
Dan Haylen upchucked in zero gravity." -Brent Simon, The Space Camp Song

You write and express your case very well. Do you have a book in the works?

Thank you; yes I do, on the subject of the Apollo hoax theory.

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"Facts are stubborn things." --John Adams
Clavius Moon Base

This last page sounds like a lot of DISINFO!!!!

Yes, if by "DISINFO" you mean obvious stabs at humor.

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"Facts are stubborn things." --John Adams
Clavius Moon Base

Gasp! Of course, the "Philadelphia" Experiment!

Yo, Adrian. It all makes sense now.

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"That's Not Blight. It's New Jersey" - The Wall Street Journal

Yes some still stand up today. But several collapsed during construction.(Cf :Beauvais cathedral)The process of construction was empiric , engineers or their medieval equivalent did not know many things about physics and used empirical models and of course not mathematical models and computers.

Who know how saucers are built ? May be some are built in alien equivalent of garage with empirical model like boat were build before the industrial revolution.

Saying "saucers" don't exist because it is impossible to think they can fail , whatever the reason of the failure , dos not impress me as a rational argument.

...and this relates to alien UFO's how??

Well, if we're gonna play may be, then may be the saucers only exist in the minds of believers, as the lack of credible evidence indicates.

Doesn't impress my either...problem is that no one on this board has made any such argument.

Perhaps it would be best if you were to "stick" to what other posters have actually posted.