I remember the early 1950s and this country was confident and of the mind to defend itself.The leaders were no nonsense types.If a space craft had crashed or exploded then crashed, that would indicate the flying saucer could probably be defended against by our military weaponry of that time.A nationwide military mobilization would have been undertaken to defend the country.This could not have been concealed or covered up, and simple deduction from the Roswell newspaper headlines would have indicated why the mobilization or martial law was in effect.

Are you claiming that the Roswell incident was, in fact, an alien spacecraft? Or not?
If 1950's era anti-aircraft weaponry was sufficient against them, my nerves are much calmer at the notion of alien invaders then.

I think he (or she) is saying that if it had been a vehicle piloted by extra terrestrials; the fact that it was destroyed via explosion/collision proves it was vunerable to something at least. And if the millitary had found said UFO (or even shot it down), then they would have mobilized to defend against other possible UFO's. But since they didn't do so, it must not have been a UFO.

Hope I translated that correctly.

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I'm like one of those idiot savants...well, except for the savant part.

"A long time ago, yet somehow in the future"

Having just read the post, I agree with Fazor's synopsis.

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I think that the argument can be turned around, and one can claim that the US *did* field systems that could shoot down the supposed flying saucers.

According to Wikipedia, the Roswell Incident occurrend in 1947, followed by:

Nike Missile System:
Test Flight: 1951
Fielded: 1953

Bomarc Missile System:
Authorized: 1949
Test Flight: 1955
Fielded: 1957

In true CT form, I have chosen to ignore the fact that the Nike system was authorized in 1944, three years before the Roswell incident.

There may be other systems, but I'm familiar with Nike and Bomarc because they were based near my home.

While I don't think that the Roswell incident had anything to do with alien invaders, the fact that a massive mobilization didn't occur doesn't seem like a very strong an argument against the alien theory.

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Spot on, I think. Especially given the very aggressive mindset at the time (that's what I gather, anyhow, I wasn't alive yet to know first hand). It seems to me that the prospect of invading aliens would have been met with a huge rallying cry of "Look to the skies! Defend our nation!"

Maybe I'm wrong, but that's how I imagine it would have played out.

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The problem with conjecture is you can fight it with conjecture. One could easily say that the Secret Uber Gubbment that the US is part of was in cahoots with the aliens, which is why they didn't rally the guard and call up a huge show of arms.

You could also say that the Rosswell crash ET survived, and later went on to star in the show Alf. His puppet-like appearance was the result of being native to the planet Puppetronia. But someone got too close to the truth, so the show was cancelled and he moved to a small villa in rural Mexico.

You can really say anything you want, if you don't want the evidence to back it up.

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I'm like one of those idiot savants...well, except for the savant part.

"A long time ago, yet somehow in the future"

To me the most telling evidence is the actual records from the time period. There are numerous classified messages, memorandum, and reports by the military discussing UFOs and what they were/weren't/might be. All were written by people who should have known something if there were really an alien spaceship that crashed in 1947.
All of the officers who wrote these reports had no idea that what they were writing could later be read by the general public (there was no FOIA at the time) and were expressing honest opinions. The head officer at project SIGN (the first AF investigation into the matter of UFOs in 1948) wrote that they desperately wanted to find a crashed UFO because they had little idea of what the source of the UFO reports were. Meanwhile, the General staff was writing letters to project SIGN demanding that the group determine what they were!
If there were a crashed UFO stashed away, one would think that somewhere, somebody would mention something about such an incident. At least you would not have the head officers in the USAF demanding an answer to what these UFOs were and they certainly would not have wasted a lot of time and manpower creating a group to determine the source of UFOs when they already knew the answer to the question one year before!

and later went on to star in the show Alf. His puppet-like appearance was the result of being native to the planet Puppetronia.




The very fact that JU has not refuted this, says it all for me, come too think of it there was something very "Alf like" about that bloody penguin!!

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The above quote has no religious significance whatsoever

I had a cousin who lived in Roswell.
He was arrested for harboring illegal aliens. ;-D

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Possibly no one, not even the ET had the big picture. It is not prudent to launch a massive attact when you have only a vague and varried idea of who you are fighting, why you are fighting and what resources the alleged enemy has?
I think the usual accounts make good sense. Deny that anything is happening and gather more information. Unfortunately official denial means you miss out on a lot of opportunities to gather information. It also means the various agencies come to a wide variety of tentative conclusions, which make decisions career risky.
Much the same happens with independent researchers who are typically short on money so the temptation is make money selling books that suggest far out hypothesis. Neil

It is now nearly sixty years since the Roswell incident. In that time we have advanced but truth be told in that time so could the aliens. Now the plain fact is that they would be aware of us and not so inclined to just send only one little defenceless scout ship. Particularly knowing what weaponry we have ... assuming they followed standard star fleet protocol.

Launch an emergency beacon with instructions to upload sufficient information from the surface of the planet and update reports from the crashed aliens to allow the home world to plan a rescue ... or a full diplomatic cadre for the repatriation of the remains.

One can only hope they were treated with sufficient dignity to ensure a full scale incident does not emerge from our ancestors early attempts to glean knowledge.

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Now that depends...

Did our predecessors also consume them?

Antarian stew...

YUUUUUUKKKKKKKKK

ewwwwwww

well that just caused me to loose my appitite.:P

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That so strange that every body thinks if aliens are real they are invaders. I understand better why so many people don't want to think about it.

It is a true testimony to the aggressive mind of the mainstream people.

That reminded me of the following article in the Onion:
New Delicious Species Discovered

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You do realize you just stereotyped a stereotype right?
In any case, you have no evidence as to what my thoughts on aliens are- given one statement in one thread hardly sheds light on how I would perceive an alien species motives.
It only made me all hungry thinkin' about it. I made a sandwich, then went outside and watched the squrrels run around like hot dogs with bushy tails scampering up trees.....


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Hmmm... Good idea... Sauteed onions to top it with...

It's probably just a coincidence that of all the surface area on the planet , Roswell Air Force Base, with the 8th....was where the world's cache of nuclear weapons was stored........ pete.

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In reading UFO lore I believe that the Roswell UFO was brought down by the Radar that was being developed there at the time.