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Old 17-January-2008, 06:10 PM
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Thanks, Swift; I'm glad someone got the reference.
Plenty of us got it. Not everybody acknowledges such references, though, since if we did it would bump our post counts way up... hey, wait a second!
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Now that Messenger has flown past mercury and returned it's spectacular image, just how long is it going to be before someone on the interweb tries to claim that NASA has faked this for some reason that will never be properly explained and that it's actually a picture of the Moon from some weird angle?

I hope that this won't happen, but given human nature I'm sure it will...
Now that you gave them the idea, yes it will.
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Old 17-January-2008, 07:45 PM
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Plenty of us got it. Not everybody acknowledges such references, though, since if we did it would bump our post counts way up... hey, wait a second!
I guess my RAH reference ("red planet") was too subtle.

By the way, "Green hills" inspired the Rhysling award.
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Thanks, Swift; I'm glad someone got the reference.
You're welcome. It is one of my favorite poems, both for "Out ride the sons of Terra", and "The cool green hills of Earth". I love both of those thoughts and those images.
Swift beat me to it.

For the uninitiated, here's the Heinlein "future history" timeline. Note that we are already living in the future (for that is where we will spend the rest of our lives).

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Now that Messenger has flown past mercury and returned it's spectacular image, just how long is it going to be before someone on the interweb tries to claim that NASA has faked this for some reason that will never be properly explained and that it's actually a picture of the Moon from some weird angle?...
The Kroger supermarket chain has been using, in its dairy department, a Mariner 10 photo of Mercury as a stand-in for the Moon for a few years now. Gotta write them a letter some day...
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Swift beat me to it.

For the uninitiated, here's the Heinlein "future history" timeline. Note that we are already living in the future (for that is where we will spend the rest of our lives).
Now THAT Plan 9 reference is one that I get.
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...since if we did it would bump our post counts way up... hey, wait a second!

Must... out-post... Donnie B...
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Ah but how long before someone finds a "face" on Mercury?
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The Kroger supermarket chain has been using, in its dairy department, a Mariner 10 photo of Mercury as a stand-in for the Moon for a few years now. Gotta write them a letter some day...
Why does Kroger need a photo of the Moon in dairy departments? To show what cows jump over?
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The Kroger supermarket chain has been using, in its dairy department, a Mariner 10 photo of Mercury as a stand-in for the Moon for a few years now. Gotta write them a letter some day...
Or perhaps Kroger has taken it upon themselves to weed out the less educated by warning only those able to spot the stand-in that there's mercury in their milk?
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I guess my RAH reference ("red planet") was too subtle.

By the way, "Green hills" inspired the Rhysling award.
I'm pretty sure the Apollo 15 crew were Heinlein fen. They had a crater near Hadley Rille named Rhysling, and near the end of the third EVA capcom Joe Allen told them it was time to return . . . :

167:51:20 Allen: As the space poet Rhysling (the blind poet in Robert Heinlein's The Green Hills of Earth) would say, we're ready for you to "come back again to the homes of men on the cool green hills of Earth."

[Scott - "That's from the Green Hills of Earth. That's one we talked about before the flight. Have you read that one?"]
[Jones - "Oh, yeah! That was a favorite when I was a kid. Had you read it?"]

[Scott - "Sure. (Quoting from memory) 'We pray for one last landing, on the globe that gave us birth. To rest our eyes on fleecy skies, and the cool green hills of Earth.'"]

[Scott - "In thinking about perception kind of stuff, if you think about where we are (at Hadley), the thing that's really different about the Earth is 'cool green hills' with the fleecy skies and the blue sky. So Heinlein's perception of a meaningful thing for the Blind Poet of the Spaceways is pretty good. That he could transport himself out."]

[Jones - "It was written sometime in the 40s, I think."]

[Scott - "And here we have black skies, and a gray surface. Dramatic difference. I always think it's amazing. Some of those science fiction guys can really project themselves out there that way."]

[Jones - "The good ones could."]

[Scott - "Cause one of the questions people ask about this is, 'Is the sky really all black?' Yeah. 'When it was daylight?' Yup. 'Wow!'"]

[Heinlein's short story, "The Green Hills of Earth", was published in the February 8, 1947 edition of the Saturday Evening Post and was included in a collection of the same name first published in 1951.]

[The title is that of a Rhysling poem: (The text of the poem follows)]


167:51:31 Scott: Thank you, Joe. We're ready, too, but it's been great. Fabulous place up here.
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Old 18-January-2008, 08:18 PM
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I'm pretty sure the Apollo 15 crew were Heinlein fen. They had a crater near Hadley Rille named Rhysling, and near the end of the third EVA capcom Joe Allen told them it was time to return . . . :
Thanks. I had remembered that coming up in Apollo, and I've seen some of the transcript before, but I didn't remember the details (specific mission, etc.). There is something special about having the text actually read in space.
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There is something special about having text actually read in space.
Expecially if it's in big, bold, golden letters as it flies past
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The Kroger supermarket chain has been using, in its dairy department, a Mariner 10 photo of Mercury as a stand-in for the Moon for a few years now. Gotta write them a letter some day...
This I have to see, do you have any pictures?

I'm asking because by seeing it in context it might make it easier to understand just what they are trying to peddle...
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Can you imagine how many posts I would have were post-count something I cared about?
Around twice as many as me.....
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[CT gibberish]Thru my L33T haxor skllz I have proof!!! That the whole Mercury thing is a fake!!!!! oN A sekret NASA website A copywrong notice on the planet.

Proof!!! Proof that the mainstream media faked it all!!!![/CT gibberish]
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That reminds me of a cartoon (probably drawn by Sam Gross) describing our first view of the far side of the Moon: it showed merely a hemisphere facing our Earth, with theatrical set-construction framing clearly visible from the rear, and the label "Act 1, Scene 3."
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