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Old 28-January-2008, 03:55 PM
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Thumbs down "Barsoomian Bigfoot Spotted"

Here's a "Bigfoot" on Mars, can you see it? (reading clouds again of course) Anyway, I have fun looking at these with my "3D" red/blue filter glasses, they seem to be 3 D anyway.

http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpeg/PIA10214.jpg

It's far away on the above shot so enlarge it, and also links given below on off topic babbling show it closer up.

But the "legs" of "bigfoot" seem to blend into the outcropping/bedrock below it so it is a dark colored (maybe basaltic) rock which has been exposed by wind/erosion.

I give my own thread the thumbs down because this kind of stuff is clearly nonsense but is fun to debunk and look at. Although Lear/Hoagland are making a big splash with the C2C public, it is so obviously false; but easy and fun to debunk.

Remember in old days people like Carl Sagan liked to debunk Velikovsky's nonsense.
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Old 28-January-2008, 04:03 PM
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Well discussed in Off-topic Babbling topic: The Man On Mars!. (You can follow press-release links there to an actual red/blue anaglyph.)
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Geez, a year ago, I'd been into Mars my whole life and never heard the world "Barsoom" and now it's everywhere.
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Old 28-January-2008, 09:05 PM
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The "figure" seems as if beckoning the rover to go over the edge.

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Petrified Yeti of the Spotless Mind.

Why do you beckon me oh! frozen figure? A "Griffin" would be my wings to you of the silent shape. How many thousands of years has sand worn you to the point that--right as a disembodied gaze falls upon you--you give us a fright?

What will you be in a year, a century? A rabbit? A dog?

How many faces will you wear before joining Borges and his Book of Sand...
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I thik it's a hoax, it's really a man in a rock suit!
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It's one of the stage hands of the studio in Area 51, where all those pictures come from. He's caught in the act pointing towards the rock with a "C" painted on it. It's easy to see this is a clumsy fake because part of the aerial is missing from where they pasted the craft into the picture. Another mistake that just SCREAMS FAKE is the sky. They made the sky look blue to disguise the fact that there are NO STARS there but they forgot that everyone knows that space is black because there is no gravity. Nasser will have to account for their LIES one day.
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Geez, a year ago, I'd been into Mars my whole life and never heard the world "Barsoom" and now it's everywhere.

No, I wasn't born yet. :-(
Kai, start with A Princess of Mars by Edgar Rice Burroughs. The creator of Tarzan. Though I very much prefered the Planet of Adventure
series by Jack Vance. Its a little earthier than the John Carter of Mars series but nothing I wouldn't recommend to my own daughter. I really recomend the second choice Kai. The first of which is The City of the Chasch. Like most of Mr. Vance's work its gripping from the very start. Burroughs can be "dry" sometimes.

I also recommend his Dying Earth stories. So far in the future the Sun has grown into its pre-"I'm about to blow a bunch of crap into the rest of the Solar system" phase. (I forget the real name for that). The remaining inhabitants of Earth are very weird and rather cynical. Whenever the Sun does something "funny" everybody stops and waits for "it". You know the "Big One". That would get old fast. Seemed to happen every couple of months, going by the storylines. That would seem to be a really, really bad sign astronomically speaking. Like contractions three minutes apart and you're still ten miles from the hospital. In traffic.
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I have (had?) a first edition of Thuvia, Maid of Mars but I can't find it on my shelves. I haven't seen it in years. I really want it back.
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I also recommend his Dying Earth stories. So far in the future the Sun has grown into its pre-"I'm about to blow a bunch of crap into the rest of the Solar system" phase. (I forget the real name for that).
You mean that's not the real name?

The sun goes Red Giant, then contracts into a white dwarf. It never really will act like it does in The Dying Earth books, ready to "go out" at a moment's notice. They're fantasy, and they play fast and loose with things like laws of physics and stellar astronomy.
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I have (had?) a first edition of Thuvia, Maid of Mars but I can't find it on my shelves. I haven't seen it in years. I really want it back.
Hey, don't look at me.
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You mean that's not the real name?

The sun goes Red Giant, then contracts into a white dwarf. It never really will act like it does in The Dying Earth books, ready to "go out" at a moment's notice. They're fantasy, and they play fast and loose with things like laws of physics and stellar astronomy.
You mean you can't gather magic ioun stones, which render you imperviuos to all hostile magic, from below the surface of neutron stars by waiting at the edge of the universe for one to strike the edge a glancing blow, thereby shearing off a section the only known way how and exposing the gem pockets?

I'm crushed.
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You mean you can't gather magic ioun stones, which render you imperviuos to all hostile magic, from below the surface of neutron stars by waiting at the edge of the universe for one to strike the edge a glancing blow, thereby shearing off a section the only known way how and exposing the gem pockets?

I'm crushed.
Well, you would be if you tried that sort of trick
I like Jack Vance's stories... "I am Chun, The Unavoidable"
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Well, you would be if you tried that sort of trick
I like Jack Vance's stories... "I am Chun, The Unavoidable"
Wow. I haven't thought of him in decades.

It actually tickled when those memory cells woke up. In D&D, if you find the right scroll, you too, can make a "Robe of Eyes". You just have to gather the eyes...takes special knives and everything.

A friend of mine started getting seriously creeped out after only a quarter of the way done. (Takes 180 pairs) Clovis Marka, 30th level Hobbit thief. Got so fat he was round. Relief came when he was instrumental in the recovery of a post-Balrog Moria for the Dwarves.

They were so grateful for his contribution they gave him enough enchanted gemstones, used for the eyes of their guardian statuary, that he was able to complete it. A complete robe of eyes allows you to follow any trail, see any hidden door, find any clue you can think about, if its there. Plus of course, allowing you to see under any lighting conditions, in all directions at once.

Hence the "Chun, the Unavoidable". Who gathered eyes.

Not nearly as creepy as Chuz, god of Madness in Tanith Lee's Stories of The Flat Earth. http://www.phil.unt.edu/~hargrove/tales.html

You don't want to encounter Chuz while walking down the street. And sadly, he was prone to walking down the street.

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In one serious encounter a Queen who feared for the safety of her new born Prince tried to hide him amoung the nomads of her land. She left him in the immediate route of their march, knowing for sure they would adopt him. Like any orphaned child they come across.

Sadly, the nomads kept mastiffs as protection against lions. And new born Kings were always swaddled in lion skin. By law, they were the only ones allowed to be.

After the King found out what happened, Her Highness was confined to a tower, where for years she swaddled and cared for a tibia, I believe. The only part left of the Prince.

And one night Chuz, Prince of Madness, came upon her in her isolation.

And the tibia wriggled free of the swaddling, grew a mouth at the upper end and screamed, "You killed me! You killed me! You killed me!" While hopping around the top of the tower.

This had a deliterious effect on Her Highness' already fragile state of mind.

This series isn't to be read lightly.
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Bahh,, I even put lipstick on for that shot. your all too cruel.
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An example of the mind at work. . .
LOOOK!!!!!! GIANT FROGS ON THE MOOOOON!!!!!!!!!!!! WOO WOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtX8ZHD8D4c#BSzxM2WiQ3s
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And yet another, "Look! You can see the wire!" When the comm antenna becomes visible for a second.
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Gestault 'fill in the blank' side of human perception is very useful in ambiguas conditions, but it seems to create a lot of this. That rock in the backround LOOKS to me like a frog, but I can overrule my perceptions, knowing there is no way for giant frogs to be on the moon.
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