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Old 18-February-2008, 09:37 AM
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Old 18-February-2008, 10:26 AM
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Old 18-February-2008, 11:42 AM
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Which bit? The Brookings report, or the delayed satellite launch? If you mean the former, I'm pretty sure the report is real. Whether it turns out to be an accurate assessment of what will happen to our culture and civilisation if we ever make contact with aliens, I don't know.
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Old 18-February-2008, 12:13 PM
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Which bit? The Brookings report, or the delayed satellite launch? If you mean the former, I'm pretty sure the report is real. Whether it turns out to be an accurate assessment of what will happen to our culture and civilisation if we ever make contact with aliens, I don't know.
yes I am referring to the former one the Brookings report and it says in that report at the end that an effort has been made to contact the intelligent beings and the scientists are concentrating on a star which is about 15 light years away

It says "governement scientists at green bank used radio signals in an effort to pick up signals that might have been beamed by intelligent beings. they concentrated on a start about 15 light years away"

So in laymans terms how far that is and does anyone know if there was anything related to this report after that?
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Old 18-February-2008, 01:21 PM
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Old 18-February-2008, 01:22 PM
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yes I am referring to the former one the Brookings report and it says in that report at the end that an effort has been made to contact the intelligent beings and the scientists are concentrating on a star which is about 15 light years away

It says "governement scientists at green bank used radio signals in an effort to pick up signals that might have been beamed by intelligent beings. they concentrated on a start about 15 light years away"
Sounds like Project Ozma, suggest you try googling for it.
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Old 18-February-2008, 05:16 PM
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yes I am referring to the former one the Brookings report and it says in that report at the end that an effort has been made to contact the intelligent beings and the scientists are concentrating on a star which is about 15 light years away

It says "governement scientists at green bank used radio signals in an effort to pick up signals that might have been beamed by intelligent beings. they concentrated on a start about 15 light years away"

So in laymans terms how far that is and does anyone know if there was anything related to this report after that?

The story I got was that the Brookings Institute report was requested by NASA, and is real, but that NASA rejected the conclusions.

At any rate, I believe it is real.
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Old 18-February-2008, 05:28 PM
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Old 18-February-2008, 06:11 PM
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The story I got was that the Brookings Institute report was requested by NASA, and is real, but that NASA rejected the conclusions.

At any rate, I believe it is real.

real!!! but I guess everyone in this forum believes that NASA has never contacted any life from any other planet
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Old 18-February-2008, 06:29 PM
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real!!! but I guess everyone in this forum believes that NASA has never contacted any life from any other planet
I never saw any reliable evidence that they have.

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Old 18-February-2008, 06:30 PM
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real!!! but I guess everyone in this forum believes that NASA has never contacted any life from any other planet
It is true. NASA is in close contact with every intelligent lifeform in the galaxy. The Bautforum is actually the secret interstellar telemarketing division of NASA. It is our job to call every alien in the Milky Way and offer to sell them glazed windows and aluminum siding. You found us out. The Salesmen in Black will be soon by your place to offer you a deal you can't refuse.
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Old 18-February-2008, 06:31 PM
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With the speed of light being what it is, and the distance between stars been what it is, I say, as of yet, no.
Though if you read the original National Geographic Viking probe article, there was some very promising findings. Basiclly at that time they put the life at 20 weird peroxides at 20.
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Old 18-February-2008, 06:44 PM
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cmon guys just because something is not out and not declared does not mean there is nothing related to that.. i am no way agreeing that nasa has found something but i dont agree with any bloddy government agency operating on such a big scale that whatever they say is GODS WORD
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Old 18-February-2008, 06:47 PM
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cmon guys just because something is not out and not declared does not mean there is nothing related to that.. i am no way agreeing that nasa has found something but i dont agree with any bloddy government agency operating on such a big scale that whatever they say is GODS WORD
What exactly are you referring to?
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Old 18-February-2008, 06:50 PM
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What exactly are you referring to?

primarily contact with any alien civilization but could be anything for that matter. only they know if its truth or not
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Old 18-February-2008, 07:05 PM
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primarily contact with any alien civilization but could be anything for that matter. only they know if its truth or not
Why would only "they" know the truth? Again this is based of the assumption that only the government--ney, only the United States Government--is capable of discovering evidence of, in this case, extraterrestrial life.

And that reasoning infers that every scientific organization is in cahoots with the aformentioned US Government...which is to say that other countries have inadequate or anitquated scientific capabilities....which is not true.

In short, what specifically makes you believe that an intelligent civilization somewhere in the universe would try to make contact, and it just so happens that only the "secretive" US Government would be able to detect said signal?
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Old 18-February-2008, 07:15 PM
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primarily contact with any alien civilization but could be anything for that matter. only they know if its truth or not
Who is 'they'? The Brookings institute? NASA? It sounds like you're insinuating something nefarious about some group.

I'm not being obtuse, I just want to be certain what you're saying/asking.
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Old 18-February-2008, 08:10 PM
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Why would only "they" know the truth? Again this is based of the assumption that only the government--ney, only the United States Government--is capable of discovering evidence of, in this case, extraterrestrial life.

And that reasoning infers that every scientific organization is in cahoots with the aformentioned US Government...which is to say that other countries have inadequate or anitquated scientific capabilities....which is not true.

In short, what specifically makes you believe that an intelligent civilization somewhere in the universe would try to make contact, and it just so happens that only the "secretive" US Government would be able to detect said signal?

I dont think you guyz are reading my messages properly. I clearly mentioned that they may know or may not. I am only debating on them hiding the info if they do know. Its not really hard for them to hide it. Everyone knows in the world and probably you all too that many governements in the past have lied about a lot of things be it US Government or any other one but the truth has always come out sooner or later. But just clearly when some big organization as NASA or any other one in the world working in the same field says that "listen people we are the most truthful people in the world afterall we have taken an oath" and we all believe it, doesnt make sense and does not fall on the logical side of mind atleast not for me!

There are somethings that is difficult to hide like planet x hoax.. its difficult for them to hide that as there are lots of independent astronomers in the world who can also find that but something like aliens i dont think so..
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Old 18-February-2008, 08:18 PM
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hoaxorreal, your own question has part of your answer. Most astronomers in the world don't work for NASA. A lot of them work with it, but what makes you think any one agency could cover up the discovery of intelligent extraterrestrial life?

Do you have any evidence whatsoever, other than a fretful article from half a century ago, that any agency is actually covering up such a discovery? Do you, in fact, have any evidence that we tend to blindly believe what any government agency says? I certainly don't, and I've spent quite a bit of my professional life working with NASA and contractor personnel.
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Old 18-February-2008, 08:36 PM
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hoaxorreal, your own question has part of your answer. Most astronomers in the world don't work for NASA. A lot of them work with it, but what makes you think any one agency could cover up the discovery of intelligent extraterrestrial life?

Do you have any evidence whatsoever, other than a fretful article from half a century ago, that any agency is actually covering up such a discovery? Do you, in fact, have any evidence that we tend to blindly believe what any government agency says? I certainly don't, and I've spent quite a bit of my professional life working with NASA and contractor personnel.

no i dont have any evidence for such a thing but then i dont believe in everything that they say well infact most of the things that they say or show us. yes you are right that there are many astronomers working for or with nasa even may be some independent astronomers but that certainly does not mean that they have access to all the inside things of nasa. i certainly will make sure that an outsider even if he is working for me should know only those things that he/she is supposed to. its logical.
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