I have to go out, but I found this lot on YouTube, looking for Jay's programme to pass on to a HB on another forum

C-rock revisited Part 1 Part 2


Have not seen this one through, but our own JayUtah is being branded as a liar

Lets have your thoughts here

And if possible a link to Jay's TV show?

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Van Rijn's original Invisible Elf was running for the North Carolina Senate, but dropped out of the contest after the paparazzi snapped him with a cute pixie just outside Disney World in Florida. Now he has settled down with her as they await their first child, writing his biography of life in Van Rijn's backyard, - Now you prove me wrong

No offense intended, Mr Sticks, but Youtube is ruining online discussion for me.

There are people I never read anymore, and places I never visit anymore because there is nothing but Youtubes.

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Banned By Nancy Lieder

It's Jarrah White, who has had a personal vendetta against me for a number of years. He has made quite a number of completely unfounded claims. YouTube seems to be the only forum that hasn't banned him; his style is abusive and foul-mouthed. Also, there is the persistent belief at YouTube that I and Svector are the same person, leading many people to make accusations against me for things Svector may have done.

Obviously I have no intention of participating at YouTube on this point until it rises above noise. It seems to be just a few hecklers hurling invective and then running for cover.

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"Facts are stubborn things." --John Adams
Clavius Moon Base

I agree with you.
But YouTube is also free easy publicity.
And HB's use it to to spread their nonsense like moldy jam on open minded bread...











What the heck did I just say?

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"Hope is not the conviction that something will turn out well but the certainty that something makes sense, regardless of how it turns out." -- Vaclav Havel

Quote:

We just don't know much.

Yet if not for those words, what would science be for? - KaiYeves

I propose an ATM corollary to Godwin's law: an ATM'er will inevitably compare himself to Copernicus (Or Galileo), when the going gets tough. - CodeSlinger

Just a side note: I enjoy how often I see "Your own JayUtah" on these forums. I hadn't known that my BAUT membership came with part-ownership of Jay. The real question is, can I use this apparent ownership to have Jay do my job for me, so I can spend these increasingly nice spring days out fishing?

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I'm like one of those idiot savants...well, except for the savant part.

"A long time ago, yet somehow in the future"

What he said.

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Banned By Nancy Lieder

Well, that was funny to watch. He's really flailing at windmills.

Personally, the embedded YouTube usage across the web is annoying. I understand it, but it is still very annoying to me for 2 reasons.
1. It appears lazy. If someone has a point to make, make it. Don't just slap a YouTube video there.

2. YouTube is blocked by the firewall at work. I admit I browse a lot at work, but usually when waiting for processes to finish or during breaks. It sucks that I am increasingly unable to contribute to discussions because I can't see what the heck everyone is talking about.

CJSF

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Two years ago moved from my town
I was looking up past the city lights
But the city lights got in my way

See the constellation ride across the sky
No cigar, no lady on his arm
Just a guy made of dots and lines

-from "See The Constellation"
by They Might Be Giants

I second both points. And for me, a 2B is that I have a dial-up connection at home, and am not going to waste my time downloading some HBer's rant.

I also suspect that it is a symptom of some deterioration of our culture, that 2kb of well thought out writing is considered less convincing to the masses than 200MB of video nonsense.

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At night the stars put on a show for free (Carole King)

The real question is, can I use this apparent ownership to have Jay do my job for me...

Depends. Do I get your salary too?

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"Facts are stubborn things." --John Adams
Clavius Moon Base

Well I made a couple of YouTube videos for our side

Parallel Shadows where I show an example I took locally of non parallel shadows

No stars in the sky where I do a quick experiment to demonstrate issues about exposure with a digital camera, a plant and a window

Getting back to another question, did Jay's programme ever make it to YouTube or Google Video?

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Van Rijn's original Invisible Elf was running for the North Carolina Senate, but dropped out of the contest after the paparazzi snapped him with a cute pixie just outside Disney World in Florida. Now he has settled down with her as they await their first child, writing his biography of life in Van Rijn's backyard, - Now you prove me wrong

The problem is that, whether you like YouTube or not, the HBs will be able to appeal to a great audience over there, convincing many more people than they would on an internet forum. That's kinda bad.

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I animate LEGO Bricks as a hobby. Isn't that just awesome?!

Great point, I hadn't really thought about it that way before. I'm currently in the middle of arguing with an HBer on another board and it seems that, to him, if it isn't on youtube it doesn't exist. At first I thought it was just a matter of lazy unwillingness to do research beyond youtube, but your statement made me realize that, to some, it's really about who has the best video editing skills, not the best argument. I suspect they don't even care if they're actually right or not. To them the goal is to make you look bad on youtube so they can rack up views for their videos.

This is the forum I have been arguing on. Let me know how I am doing. Better still, register there and join the "debate"

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Van Rijn's original Invisible Elf was running for the North Carolina Senate, but dropped out of the contest after the paparazzi snapped him with a cute pixie just outside Disney World in Florida. Now he has settled down with her as they await their first child, writing his biography of life in Van Rijn's backyard, - Now you prove me wrong

Is Jarrah white the guy with long curly hair and the Australian accent? If so, I can give one credit to him and one alone, he is a not to shabby video editor. His Saturn/Bond intro IS rather cool. However, that has no bearing on the truth, which so far has been nada. Guess beauty isn't truth after all.

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You might want to point out to Sunny_01 and Tom_ that they did "send more (and more) people", there wasn't just one landing.

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Hwæt! We Gardena in geardagum,
þeodcyninga, þrym gefrunon,
hu ða æþelingas ellen fremedon.

I agree, this only reveals the utter depths of their ignorance. This almost requires negative amount of research to get wrong. The concept is boggling.

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One of the accusations in the videos was that JayUtah and Phil relied on a socalled expert to deal with the C-rock, but that this expert is also a follower of Hoagland, which is swept under the carpet IIRC.

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Van Rijn's original Invisible Elf was running for the North Carolina Senate, but dropped out of the contest after the paparazzi snapped him with a cute pixie just outside Disney World in Florida. Now he has settled down with her as they await their first child, writing his biography of life in Van Rijn's backyard, - Now you prove me wrong

I suspect that if I could get Jay to do my job for a few days, my salary would increase.

It could be worth the investment.

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"All natural, huh? So is lightning." - Mike Rowe

Yeah, well, if you're going to tell the unpleasant truth about someone, you have to expect some fallout.