Just a thought I have had streaming through my mind lately. When you look at recent history, mainly the last 100 years, it is full of false flag operations by governments to persuade citizens that some sort of action must be taken. Notably the Gulf of Tonkin, the Reichstag, and most recently 9/11, depending on what you believe about what is going on in this world.

Those examples aside, has anyone ever given thought to a possible future attack on Earth by "Aliens"? What would this accomplish?

- Create a reason to militarize space.
- Reason for large scale space projects in general.
- Probably the scariest thing that most people could imagine, people would then be willing to do almost anything/give anything up.
- Slick way to "unite" humanity.

How this could be done:
- I firmly believe that the military has technologies and weapons beyond the public knowledge of what is possible. Would be easy to for them to appear as some sort of alien craft/weapons.
- Have also read some interesting articles in the past about the UFO abduction phenomenon being entirely man made. A way to test on humans and then having them get written off by others because of what they claim. May also be a fear tactic running up to such an event, making people think that the "aliens" are bad.

Whatcha think?

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You can try reading Rm Riberra's epic thread meandering through the entire UFO phenomenon with that notion in mind.

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I think that while we can't discuss it here, neither the Gulf of Tonkin nor 9/11 were False Flag Operations, but if you have a space based conspiracy you want to discuss go for it.

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Naw, I would just wait for the viruses to do 'em in.

Neither was the Reichstag fire. (IMO)

Those were all convenient incidents that could be spun by some people for their own purpose.

Or, as the saying goes: If you want to beat a dog, a stick to do it with can always be found.

It's only when the dog isn't a dog that a stick needs to be manufactured.
As was the case with Operation Himmler, probably the most extensive real false flag operation in modern history.

And nobody bought into that one.

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The "false UFO operations" I've heard about had nothing to do with government agendas; they were perpetrated by ordinary people. Like the guy in Phoenix a few months ago with the lit road flares attached to helium balloons. I don't know what these people hope to accomplish, maybe they're just bored and want attention or they like to scare other people.

The military already has a reason to militarize space, they don't need to manufacture one. Satellite insertion, Satellite destruction, space plane research to accomplish both those goals.

GPS was, and still is, a military setup. They allow others to use it at a lower capability as it prevents the need of civilian or other governments doing the same thing.

And frankly yes they do have some secret technologies. And a lot of now public prototypes that failed that was the source of some of the so called UFO sighting and other conspiracy stuff.

However nothing that anyone would call conspiracy worthy really. The military needs to have some secrets, or we might as well just open our borders to the first aggressor and welcome them with open arms.

Sorry but complaining that the military has secrets, and using that as proof of anything, is akin to complaining about the sun being too bright and saying that it's proof that the earth is too dim.

I hate that line of thinking. But being x-military, I might be a bit biased.

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I wouldn't recommend anyone 'try' to read through that thread and make any sense of it. Might cause brain damage.

Don't even joke about that man.. I can easily imagine someone in, for example, the Bilderberg Group, deciding that 95% of the world's population is superfluous and releasing a virus that the elite are immune to which will wipe out most of the world's population.

Or someone from the Council on Foreign Relations custom tailoring a virus to wipe out people of Arab descent.

Actually, I think he was saying to wait for the viruses to do in the aliens, as in War of the Worlds.

As for the OP, the military may have the tech to make in ET invasion look plausible for a bit, but they also still have humans running it.

Like all the truly "great" governmental conspiracies, the idea that "The Government" is a single entity seems to be required. How would the thousands of people used in the various support rolls be convinced that this was what they signed on for?

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Sorry, but the chance of a racist virus being developed is even smaller than the chance of a stable OS coming out of Redmond.

At the DNA level, there are far too many genes that are identical in all humans, and far too many that may be identical across the various human "races".

And that's at DNA level. As expressed, the level of differentiation is even smaller.

So it will be far, far too difficult to design a virus that can target specific races, because race itself is too ambiguous to define.

That's an aside, actually: I suspect Drunk Vegan was speaking with tongue firmly in cheek.

It would be even tougher to design a pathogen that would leave the "elite" unscathed. Racial characteristics have at least some relationship to the genome (viz. sickle cell syndrome and such). I challenge anyone to show me a membership-in-the-elite gene.

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Right here.

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Bilderberg Group? are you serious?

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I'm not sure what chord I struck there, but yeah I was referring to killing off the aliens; like the common viruses in War of the Worlds or even the computer virus in Independence Day.

Obviously you are not old enough to remember the original "Outer Limits" TV show:

The Architects of Fear
9/30/63 19-26 Jun 63

A team of desperate scientists, seeking an end to the threat of war,
surgically metamorphose scientist Robert Culp into an "alien" in an
elaborate scenario designed to frighten the world's nations into
peaceful coexistance by creating for them a "common enemy"--an enemy
from space. Culp's death is faked--not even his wife is aware of the
plan--and he's then subjected to a series of operations. But the
noble scheme backfires: His spaceship crashes in a wooded area, where
he is shot by frightened hunters. The "creature" limps back to the
lab and reveals himself to his horrified wife before collapsing at
her feet.



Upshot is: You probably could not falsify an interstellar craft coming into the solar system.
Too many countries watching the skies with too many sensors.
Like the 'fake moon landing', you just couldn't get a large enough group of scientists to make a project like this work and yet stay silent about it.

Not a new concept but just not in the realm of possibility, no matter what you may think about 'hidden advanced technology'.

Viruses were unknown at the time Wells wrote War of the Worlds. His Martians were done in by bacteria. He says so, twice, in his book. The second time, he makes the point that the bacteria found in the Martians were all ones known on earth.

Actually, bacteria are biologically much more likely, though not a sure thing by any means. Viruses reproduce by taking over the host cell's mechanism for reproducing DNA (almost always), and then having the host use the DNA to make the protein part of the virus. That would only work on co-evolved hosts: for any alien species to have DNA as their genetic material, much less exactly the same DNA structure and coding as earth ones would be a really long shot.

I remember The Outer Limits.

It was an ABC knock-off of CBS' The Twilight Zone.

It lasted one season(?) about 1964, and featured a rubber monster in the first 5 minutes of every episode.

Is that the one?

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This is the type of reality that the chemtrail crowd choose to ignore. If we are being smothered with all of the (insert chemtrail mysterious substance here), how are the elite and those in control going to be immune?


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If I recall that episode correctly, it was initially censored in prime time and did not show the creature mentioned. As I recall it was considered too frightening for prime time viewership!

You wouldn't need to design the virus to leave certain people alone, simply make sure you have an effective cure before you release it and that all those you want to live are either vaccinated or have the cure to restore them to health in case they get infected.

Of course you run the risk of someone letting conscience get the better of them and giving the cure to the public, but you hardly want to bring on the apocalypse without anyone else to help you run the mutant Mad Max aftermath.

The trick to that is to keep the elite blissfully unaware as to what's really going on.

Such as mixing the cure in some sort of very expensive and trendy food or drink perhaps?

Or running it as an airborne agent through the ventilation of a very expensive hotel, then offering the chosen a free weekend there just before the tainted <insert product here> goes into mass production and distribution to fairs, festivals, and sporting events around the globe?

Stuff like that?

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Could always publicly declare the immediate need to be vaccinated against a deadly virus but ensure that there are never enough stockpiles to go around and that no one without a few million in the bank can possibly afford to be inoculated.

So do an inversed Golga-Frincham?
Let only those survive that are not really needed by society?
GREAT IDEA!!!

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I almost feel bad unleashing such evil ideas upon the world. So a disclaimer:

To any would-be Hitlers, remember that while the elite may be above us, it is only because they are standing on the backs of the working class. You don't want to wipe us out, really.

And if I can't deter you from your horrific plan, at least remember that I was the one who gave you the idea, and trace my IP so you can provide the vaccine when the day of reckoning is at hand..