Todaytomorrow UFO Thread

[JayUtah]

yes and neither does anyone else.

So when you ask us to trust you that you are reporting correctly on alien activity, there's really no basis for that trust -- is there?

Is it possible that the aliens are deceiving you?

[Let Me Enlighten U]

Originally Posted by JayUtah

yes and neither does anyone else.

So when you ask us to trust you that you are reporting correctly on alien activity, there's really no basis for that trust -- is there?

more the reason to believe me because you know when i don't know the answer i will say so instead of trying to bs you. again, all i'm doing is trying to shed light on the coverups of truth. two of the largest i know are the moon landings and alien existence. again, you can choose to ignore me. or you can open your mind and see the truths as they are. only with an open mind free of preconcieved notions will you be able to realize these truths.

[JayUtah]

...all i'm doing is trying to shed light on the coverups of truth.

Why would we trust someone to "shed light" who admits to having such an incomplete understanding of his alleged sources?

Is it possible the aliens are deceiving you?

[LotusExcelle]

You will need to provide evidence, LMEU.

[Let Me Enlighten U]

my sources are official. i have had access to many documents which document coverups and the truths they intend to coverup. i can assure you that if my sources are illegitimate then yours are beyond illegitimate.

[LotusExcelle]

As stated you will need to provide evidence. Please do so.

[Let Me Enlighten U]

Originally Posted by LotusExcelle

You will need to provide evidence, LMEU.

i will even though i don't need to. all the proof is in the logic. it is beyond far fetched that man flew in a sardine can wrapped with aluminum foil to the moon, landed on it and then came back of all things. if they tried that for real, the astronauts would have been roasted the moment they left orbit and entered the radiation zones.

[JayUtah]

my sources are official.

Name the sources.

i have had access to many documents which document coverups and the truths they intend to coverup.

Produce the documents.

i can assure you that if my sources are illegitimate then yours are beyond illegitimate.

My sources are independently verifiable. Yours don't exist until you demonstrate that they do.

[JayUtah]

it is beyond far fetched that man flew in a sardine can wrapped with aluminum foil to the moon...

This is the fourth time I have asked you to quantify and substantiate the radiation levels you claim. It is the fourth time I have asked you to reconcile your claims with those of recognized experts.

Please do so immediately.

[Let Me Enlighten U]

Originally Posted by JayUtah

it is beyond far fetched that man flew in a sardine can wrapped with aluminum foil to the moon...

This is the fourth time I have asked you to quantify and substantiate the radiation levels you claim. It is the fourth time I have asked you to reconcile your claims with those of recognized experts.

Please do so immediately.

0.1–10 MeV - van allen outer belt

50 MeV - van allen inner belt

[JayUtah]

Those are particle energy levels. I asked for radiation levels.

[LotusExcelle]

I get the sense LMEU is googling the info as he/she goes. Please stop holding back from your sources, LMEU. They are needed for verification.

[JayUtah]

Of course he's frantically Googling for answers. That's why he throws out particle energy levels without listing what kind of particle is being talked about, and without the other component of the environment description: the flux. And why he doesn't know that energy figures don't become a description of radiation effect until they're expressed as some form of absorbed dose, which varies from substance to substance.

Don't you know that all "enlighteners" Google in the middle of a debate?

[Let Me Enlighten U]

i wanted to bring up another topic which i spoke of earlier. it is one that fascinates me greatly. probably the most fascinating truth i can enlighten you with.

earlier i mentioned how the aliens we've (u.s. gov't) encountered had space bending capabilities. well they have been able to demonstrate it to us and not only send a human (newt gingrich was the test subject believe it or not) a great distance away and back in a short period of time, but they have also demonstarted traveling back in time. for this demonstration they sent a scientist who goes by the name "doc" to the mesoziac era. i know it sounds ludacris, but it's true.

[LotusExcelle]

Whose puppet is that?

[JayUtah]

i wanted to bring up another topic...

No, please finish answering my radiation exposure question.

[Let Me Enlighten U]

it is harmful. was that what you were asking for?

[JayUtah]

No. For the fifth time, please give a numerical figure for the radiation dosages in the Van Allen belt, and source for where you obtained those figures.

[Let Me Enlighten U]

it was fun and certainly a progressive day, especially for Jay who seems to be opening up his mind to new possibilities and truths. i have to go to bed now. got to get up early to continue my quest to spread truths and knowledge. remember that everything is relative. good night friends.

[stutefish]

Originally Posted by Let Me Enlighten U

it was fun and certainly a progressive day, especially for Jay who seems to be opening up his mind to new possibilities and truths. i have to go to bed now. got to get up early to continue my quest to spread truths and knowledge. remember that everything is relative. good night friends.

I have to say, this seems like a pretty novel approach. I've never before seen an HB allege that that the debunkers were "opening [their minds] to new possibilities and truths".

[JayUtah]

i have to go to bed now. got to get up early to continue my quest...

After having ignored five requests to give a figure for radiation dosages in the Van Allen belts. See, I happen to know that you can't just Google that information. So I know why you're evading that issue.

[JayUtah]

I've never before seen an HB allege that that the debunkers were "opening [their minds] to new possibilities and truths".

I'd like to see links to any part of this discussion that could be construed as my having "opened my mind" to anything LMEU has spewed.

He can't flee BAUT thinking that he's been sorely licked. He has to go away thinking that he touched someone, planted some seed, did something that feeds into the delusion he's got going. Pure face-saving.

[Let Me Enlighten U]

Originally Posted by JayUtah

i have to go to bed now. got to get up early to continue my quest...

After having ignored five requests to give a figure for radiation dosages in the Van Allen belts. See, I happen to know that you can't just Google that information. So I know why you're evading that issue.

i know you want me to answer your questions, but some of them are so off topic and i don't want to stray from the ultimate goal which is to enlighten you to the truths of modern society. see i have a strict program which i follow. it is a proven program that helps people snap out of their state of unawareness. you have made great progress my friend. in time i will answer most of your questions which you may be able to answer yourself once you are enlightened fully. remember tomorrow is another day. and everything is relative

[JayUtah]

i know you want me to answer your questions, but some of them are so off topic...

This one isn't. You said the radiation levels in the Van Allen belts were lethal. That makes it your claim, and a substantiation of that claim is the most on-topic thing there is on BAUT. So on-topic is it that we have a mechanism for compelling you to answer that question or else not be able to participate at all.

see i have a strict program which i follow.

So does BAUT. It's called "you answer my questions."

...snap out of their state of unawareness.

Kindly don't talk down to me. You've displayed colossal ignorance in most of what you've tried to describe. You've been caught cribbing from web sites and lying about your sources. Everyone has pretty much given up on you and written you off as a troll.

I challenged you to live up to a real-world standard of rigor, and you don't even know what it means to do that.

[Nicolas]

Originally Posted by Let Me Enlighten You

i will [give evidence] even though i don't need to.

You do, per the board rules, as explained numerous times and said in official warnings.

Give evidence for claims already made.

[gzhpcu]

Originally Posted by Let Me Enlighten U

it was fun and certainly a progressive day, especially for Jay who seems to be opening up his mind to new possibilities and truths. i have to go to bed now. got to get up early to continue my quest to spread truths and knowledge. remember that everything is relative. good night friends.

This is classical internet trolling at its very best. This is why after, one post, I decided to desist.

[Nicolas]

Originally Posted by Let Me Enlighten U

remember that everything is relative

Your have done a relatively terrible job at convincing anyone. I hope continuation of your quest is one bathing in unrefutable evidence, verifiable facts and traceable sources, rather than, well, shouts and lies. The board rules share this hope, only they make that hope a command. No relative command, an absolute one. Give evidence for claims already made. Simple as that.

[Let Me Enlighten U]

Originally Posted by Nicolas

Your have done a relatively terrible job at convincing anyone. I hope continuation of your quest is one bathing in unrefutable evidence, verifiable facts and traceable sources, rather than, well, shouts and lies. The board rules share this hope, only they make that hope a command. No relative command, an absolute one. Give evidence for claims already made. Simple as that.

i'm not trying to convince anyone. my objective is to spread the truth and assist in opening up your minds so that you may see the truths clearly. one of the truths we discussed yesterday are the fake moon landings. it is a fact that the radiation in between the earth and moon is way to lethal for any human to be exposed to for just 30 seconds let alone 3 or 4 days. i know about the lethal radiation levels because nasa has conducted many studies on this. i used to work for nasa in the past as some of you may know, at top levels. i have seen classified documents on how they planned to disguise the truth about the apollo astronauts traveling through the lethal radiation zones. i can tell you the hoax has worked to perfection.

[Nicolas]

Verifiable evidence of the claims you made earlier first.

[Let Me Enlighten U]

all you need is logic to realize that going to the moon is nearly impossible, especially back in 1969. do you actually believe that all those big green boxes they put in the videos of mission control were computers? ha!