I understand that the topic title may seem inflammatory, but be assured that my intentions are most definitely not to flame the aforementioned Nibiru folks. But they're not a very bright group, specifically the promoters.

I was on a forum that I visit fairly often (which I registered at slightly before leaving this place) and I found something from my past that reminded me of this place and the 'old days' back when there was a rogue planet coming to kill us all.

http://astrobiology.nasa.gov/ask-an-...stion/?id=2759

This Nibiru stuff should have disappeared back in 2003, but it just keeps coming back. I was surprised most by the fact that this article was written up in 2008, but more surprised that an astrobiologist couldn't identify the image.

The image sourced (This one) is certainly interesting. I've seen it pop up many places and being claimed as Nibiru many times, and I know I'll be seeing it many more times in many more places. The gift that keeps on giving.

But... what is it?

In 2003 we didn't get killed by this thing, and yet they kept on saying we were destined to be destroyed, killed, etc. in horrible ways by this rogue planet. So, naturally there were a few of us out there who wanted to have some fun with it in our own ways. I took up the challenge of fooling them and my example remains very popular.

In 2003 an excellent set of images were released that showed the outburst of a star by the name of V838 Monocerotis. I took two of the images showing the outburst, added the dates in place, and lowered the quality a bit for it to seem more 'authentic'. From there I propagated it all over the internet as images of Nibiru.

Five years later, it remains dominant on these sites. If anyone out there is still a Nibiru hobbyist or occasionally encounters followers, you can tell them to thank me.

Bonus points if anyone out here remembers me! (It would be best if you didn't, though.)

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Wow. Um . . . .

First, I think it's always a bad idea to spread false information for the sake of spreading false information. Always, but especially in a crowd that you know will clutch at any old straw in order to keep their beliefs afloat. It seems really irresponsible to me.

Second, you're right. Your thread title is inflammatory. It's also wrong. They may be gullible. They may be naive. They may, in the case of some of the promoters, be con artists or seriously ill. But I don't think you can take one woo-woo belief and declare all of its, um, believers to be not that bright. Look at some of the crazy things Newton believed, after all.

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"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

I'm with Gillianren on the title, and have changed it.

We may disagree with these folk, but we don't have to poke them with sticks.

I also agree with Gillianren that the (original) title is wrong. Unless you have an organised way to suddenly show all these people using your faked image that it was faked, it's a bit pointless.

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I like a good prank but I'm not at all impressed with this one. If one is to counter woo, it should be with science. Perpetrating a hoax only serves to damage your credibility in my opinion. Further, adding those photos to their lore has only provided them more grist for the mill. I think it's likely that the "true believers" would only contest your admission to the hoax as disinformation and continue to hold the photos as genuine.

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As much as I despise censorship, I digress... for there is nothing I can do here.

While your points about giving them a bit of 'ammo' are indeed valid, I wasn't exactly the kind of person who thought much about the future. That's the point of this.

I was thirteen years old when I started spreading this, and I had been fooled by these people prior, so I was out for any type of juvenile vengeance I could get. This was it, fool them back! In retrospect, good job young me?

I was just thinking about this recently, which is why I decided to make it more well known. I'm not necessarily proud for spreading one of the best fake evidences for this rogue planet, but I did do it, and I'm tired of seeing this same fake evidence pop up five years gone... so here's the explanation.

I'm just hoping this helps someone out there, because as I said, it's still a pretty common thing. You can find the picture in many youtube videos that get posted; this is a common source of them on forums that put high stocks in the 2012 Nibiru theme.

Good job? Well, if you call tricking the gullible a "good job..."

I would argue it would have been far more instructional to post the pictures as a "could it be possible?" arguement, but, in the same post, say, "Nah, these are just images of V838 Monocerotis, and here are (links) more images, but brighter, at our highest resolutions."

That you were thirteen when you did this is understandable. It doesn't make it right. You're simply one of those who're more armed than most when it comes to certain skills and knowledge, but, like the rest of us, whose overall level of learning, and wisdom, sometimes takes some time to catch up.

Hopefully, the responsibility factor has kicked in, so that any future endeavors along these lines have teaching points firmly attached to them so as to help the gullible develop more along the lines of wisdom and understanding rather than simply giving them fire without them knowing how to use it.

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If we halt the ISS, all versions of Ares, and transport Orion and Altair aboard DIRECTv3's Jupiter family of Shuttle-Derived Launch Vehicles, we just might make it back to the Moon by 2020.

You're not the only one who pulled a stunt like that.
It helps demonstrate their gullibility and lack of discernment to the general public, but not to themselves.

The problem is that these people are so detached from reality that they will simple ignore it if somebody claims, or even proofs, that some piece of their precious evidence is false.

To quote our member Noclevername: You can't reason a person out of something they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

I don't think there is much you can do about it, other then what you are doing right now.

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A 13yo boy doing such a thing to a group of nutjobs that had completely hoodwicked him, while not admirable is certaily understandable.

So I'm going to say I Understand, and I'm not going to berate you for it at all.

And as you seem to have come forward with an admission of the facts on your own, I will say Good Job.

However, knowing CTers as I do I will say this. Don't even bother trying to convince them V383 Mon as Nibiru was your doing. They won't belive it ever, and you'll just frustrate yourself trying to do such a thing.

Sounds like you were alread frustrated with them so best advice, is don't go there.

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You were banned June 11, 2005. So, you've been reinstated in the general amnesty--I'm surprised you still remember your password. You used to also be Majin Veheta. This blog is your bad astronomy swan song.

Your next to last post before the BA banned you was a subtle knock at HUb', and I seem to remember that I PMed you recommending you not go there. Couple hours later, you were gone.

Welcome back. I know I don't have to warn you about what not to do.

I disagree with everyone here.
Revolver may have not been honorable in his actions- but it's a worthwhile laugh and many of the folks around here are guilty of the same.

Revolver demonstrated the nature of gullibility. Of course the 'believer' will remain in denial- but so what? They are gone anyway. They choose not to be educated on the matter.
What his demonstration does- it shows anyone else just how silly the Nibiru claims are and just how uneducated and indiscriminating that believer crowd is.

He didn't hold a gun to anyones head- he simply gave them what they wanted to see and let them dig their own graves.

ETA: What's the Joke Documentary about Kubricks wife finding NASA documents etc?

William Karel's Dark Side of the Moon.

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I see nothing wrong with this particular hoax. Not having seen how it
was presented five years ago, there is nothing in the information here
that indicates it caused or was likely to cause anything destructive,
and it appears to have been well-done and successful.

If a hoax like this is wrong, then I say it is equally wrong to include
false, spurious answers in multiple-choice tests unless the correct
answers are clearly stated on the same page!

And never put water in the ocean. Ocean levels are rising, inundating
seacoasts around the world. Adding a cup of water to the ocean is
destructive! Don't do it!

And only use science when discussing things with people. Make every
conversation a scientific argument. Never use irony or sarcasm. It would
make people explode, and you don't want that, do you? I hope not!

-- Jeff, in Minneapolis

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point of rockets is to explore them!" -- Kai Yeves

" And the enchanted broom made yet another trip back to the well and filled the buckets with water and dumped them into the great tub. and retwurned for more.
Mickey took the axe and chopped the broom into several pieces. Done.
But,lo,.....the pieces of the broom rose up and multiplied, and soon all of the new brooms joined the fray, afresh with new life to begin agian the task...
and woe was the Sorcerer's apprentice."

Long ago in a land far far away.

Well hey, someone did remember... (or looked at my posts...)

In the past three years I've learned to never say I became more mature or grew up, because I'm still a pretty immature person, but I like to think my post-2005 record is pretty good.

The only reason I remembered my password is because I've used the same variations on a single word for at least five years now. Not the safest thing to do, but I've had no problems yet.

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To me, Nibiru is nothing but a recipe for a Migraine Headache!

Admittedly I was concerned about a planet coming to smash the Earth but then did a "Debunk Nibiru" search on Google and uncovered Bad Astronomy. I have a very hard time believing any sizable object (larger than say a smallish moon) getting past all the telescopes, amateur and professional out there. Even if NASA was trying to hide it, the amateurs would squawk loudly if they spot it while eyeballing Jupiter. You can't round up that many telescopes. That goes super-size problematic when Nancy Lieder claims that the bugger is close enough to see with naked eyeballs.

Of course, small planetoids can still hide in the Solar System. They do however have to be close to the asteroid belt or out further to hide from the eyeballs trained at the sky. Asteroids and meteors are fast moving, so they are harder to catch, but for one to be so big as Nibiru?

Wow! You give the term, "Deathbed confession" a new twist. Well are you enjoying your resurrection? I am sure you have gotten all that rambuciousness out of your blood. Now a more pertinent question. You did not profit from any of your shenanigans did ya? Those poor "Niburites" (Well that is what I call em! ) are shelling out millions a dollars a year on DVDs and survival gear from any shyster with a website proclaiming the inside track to the end of the world salvation plan.

Well the Niburites are mating and more and more are being born everyday, so don't be surprised when they come a knocking for your input! Check the calendar it is that time of year when they flourish and meet up to exchange.

I really enjoyed reading this. It was a diabolical.

Wanna buy my online journal on surviving the day after Xmas crowd stampede at Wal-Mart? I have all the floorplans and exit and enter strategies for any Wal-Mart near you. Kidding folks!! Power to the herd of the sheople!

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Sarcasm detector malfunctioning...

I wish I could have gotten in on this and made millions. Unfortunately spreading an image to the depths of an internet allows for no such thing.

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Hey. No sarcasm. Just checking. You know in the world we live in nothing is as what it seems on face value. Didn't mean to ruffle your feathers, if I did.

I am an admirer.

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"When the first ship arrived, we were all on the ridge with weapons pointed skyward, then the first beam cut a portion of the ridgeline from under us." "First 3 troops broke ranks, then 8...then the second beam vaporized an armored troop carrier--soon after that we were all running in terror." Evolutionary War I November 11, 2011 at 11:11am Yosemite National Park

[QUOTE=Revolver;1387164]I understand that the topic title may seem inflammatory, but be assured that my intentions are most definitely not to flame the aforementioned Nibiru folks. But they're not a very bright group, specifically the promoters.

Best to be careful when making graphical changes to photos for inside humor. Some conspiracy theorists are not too bright and take the gag photos at face value. I recently did a gag about a Telrad being placed on the Hubble Space Telescope on Servicing Mission 4 and I have already fooled a few people with it.
I always put a little something in the image like a ;-) to show it is a gag picture.