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Old 08-January-2009, 11:56 AM
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Yet another ufo-related story, this time about one of them supposedly hitting an air-turbine in England...

Quoting from the BBC web-site :

UFO researchers are claiming damage to a Lincolnshire wind farm turbine was caused by a mystery aircraft.
The turbine at Conisholme lost one 66ft (20m) blade and had another badly damaged in the early hours of Sunday.
Local UFO groups said they had lots of reports of activity in the area and had teams searching for clues.
Ecotricity, which owns the site, said while investigations continued they were not ruling anything out - but the extent of damage was "unique".
The turbine is one of 20 at the Conisholme site, which has been running for three years. The broken blade has been recovered and is being examined.
Dale Vince, founder of Ecotricity, said they were keeping an open mind about the incident.
"We don't have an explanation at the moment as to what the cause was," he said.
"We have been crawling all over it and have sent bits off for analysis to see if we can work out what caused it
"Until we have some idea, some plausible explanation that it was not a UFO, I don't think we should rule it out".
He added: "To make one of these blades fall off, or to bend it, takes a lot."
'Loud banging'
Russ Kellett, from the Flying Saucer Bureau, said witnesses had told him of activity in the area.
"One saw what they at first thought was a low flying aircraft on the Saturday evening and another heard a loud banging in the early hours of Sunday," he said.
"This is the second most reports of activity we have ever had - I have had over 30 phone calls and emails.
"To hit two of the blades, any object must have been about 170ft long."
The Ministry of Defence said it was not looking into the incident.
A spokesman said: "The MoD examines reports solely to establish whether UK airspace may have been compromised by hostile or unauthorised military activity.
"Unless there's evidence of a potential threat, there's no attempt to identify the nature of each sighting reported."

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"Until we have some idea, some plausible explanation that it was not a UFO, I don't think we should rule it out".
Wow, thats like a really scientific approach. Oh dear.
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Old 08-January-2009, 12:09 PM
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/l...re/7817378.stm

http://www.louthleader.co.uk/news/UP...39s.4844401.jp
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Old 08-January-2009, 12:29 PM
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UFO claim over wind farm damage

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"One saw what they at first thought was a low flying aircraft on the Saturday evening and another heard a loud banging in the early hours of Sunday," he said.
Hmm.. only several hours apart, it must be related. "at first thought"? Was it Venus after all?

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"To hit two of the blades, any object must have been about 170ft long."
Or perhaps the falling blade hit the other. But what would be the fun of reporting that!
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Old 08-January-2009, 12:33 PM
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If these stories weren't so sad, they'd be funny.... or is it the other way around
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Old 08-January-2009, 12:36 PM
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Yet another ufo-related story, this time about one of them supposedly hitting an air-turbine in England...
Well it's a real wonder these Aliens actually managed to reach earth.
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Old 08-January-2009, 12:45 PM
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Just to add we have had some un seasonally cold weather of late. They are close to the coast. What would be the chance of ice, cold and faulty construction causing a fail and fall off and hitting the other?

Re lights. Not to mention the RAF has a few bases in the area and there would appear to be a bombing range (TBC) on the coast nearby.

Anyway, I see the Sun newspaper has it as a story so it must be true.....

But once again no pictures of the UFO?

ETA, found this. Must be loads getting hit by UFO's.
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Old 08-January-2009, 01:57 PM
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The Grauniad might have solved the mystery of the lights;
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/orga...ndpower-thesun
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Those mysterious lights were actually the fireworks Emily's brother Tim had bought at the local garden centre for the 80th birthday party of dad Peter Bell. "It was a medium-sized fireworks display with absolutely no ballistics, and the fireworks were mostly dropping over my parents' house. But we were laughing that we could have broken the wind turbine," jested Emily.
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There's a post-Post-Modern euphemism you don't hear every day - "when the UFO hits the wind turbine".
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Old 08-January-2009, 04:05 PM
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FT in on it now as well. That is "I was at the fireworks" comment.
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"Until we have some idea, some plausible explanation that it was not a UFO, I don't think we should rule it out".
Wow, thats like a really scientific approach. Oh dear. [/QUOTE]

I don't see anything wrong with that statement. If the blade was hit by a flying object, we don't know what it was.
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I don't see anything wrong with that statement. If the blade was hit by a flying object, we don't know what it was.
True, but that's just getting cute with the different uses of the term UFO. I think it's quite evident from the article that they meant the little-green-men variety.
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Old 08-January-2009, 06:27 PM
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And now CNN gets on the bandwagon....

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/eu...ef=mpstoryview

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Fraser McLachlan, chief executive of GCube, which insures more than 25,000 wind turbines worldwide, told PA that although it was unusual, this kind of incident happened up to six times a year (so that's six different UFO's or the same one?).
"It does happen that a blade will sometimes just come off a machine for one reason or another," he said. "The main reason is the blade may shear. "We don't normally see things like aircraft -- or UFOs -- hitting them. It's usually a mechanical failure that causes the blade to separate from the main hub."
He said the cold weather was another possible cause.
Dr Peter Schubel, an expert in the design and manufacture of wind turbine blades at the University of Nottingham, agreed.
A local woman sees a fireworks display, misinterprets it as an "ufo", the turbine happens to break down and, presto: you have a perfect tabloid story - ufo crashes into wind turbine...
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There's a post-Post-Modern euphemism you don't hear every day - "when the UFO hits the wind turbine".

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"Until we have some idea, some plausible explanation that it was not a UFO, I don't think we should rule it out".
Wow, thats like a really scientific approach. Oh dear.
But that was also in the same breath as saying since there is no evidence of the other mundane explaination as if that makes this idea more plausible.

And that one was funny...
"We don't normally see things like aircraft -- or UFOs -- hitting them.
Not normally, but on occasion...

Ok; now that we all know of the fireworks, how about they re-interview Kellet to see if he's still excited. Actually; I wouldn't be surprised if the reporter already knew, and withheld it to get a woo quote.
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A wind turbine was hit by a UFO in Conisholme, Lincolnshire, England. Locals witness strange fast moving orange lights whizzing about in the area. Authorities have no idea what could have caused the incident as no wreckage was found , yet there is on blade missing from the 65 foot turbine. MOD officials have no reports of any air craft incidents on the night in question. Experts are totally baffled!

Any thoughts anybody?


Sorry folks i only had a quick scan through the forum so i didn't see the other threads on the subject!
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And this makes 3. I'll let everyone find the others.
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Maybe someone needed it to make crop circles. :-)
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Any thoughts anybody?
Yeah, a few thoughts.

ETA: Cool, thread merge so now I'm linking the thread that the post is in anyway.
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A WInd Turbine up the road in Peterlee caught fire a couple of years ago, all that was left was a smouldering hub, the blades completely burned.
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After millions of light-years, he runs into a wind turbine, huh?

Crazy, no-good, drunk aliens... I done told 'em not to drink the firewater!
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A WInd Turbine up the road in Peterlee caught fire a couple of years ago, all that was left was a smouldering hub, the blades completely burned.
Hey Captain. Sorry if this has been addressed prior--don't have the time to look back--what are those blades made of anyway and if it was hit by one of our aircraft isn't it pretty certain it would have went down? (the aircraft that is) Do those big blades ever just break off?
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Well the way the one near Peterlee burned I would say it's some kind of composite. Fibreglass maybe? I am sure there will be a wbsite somewhere that tells us.
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"Until we have some idea, some plausible explanation that it was not a UFO, I don't think we should rule it out".

Sounds like a UFO is the default explanation.
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This just gets better.

Link to Louth Leader with Nick Pope interview.
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I don't know about the whole ufo thing, probably firewoirks or sky lanterns from the description, but I doubt the "ufo" had anything to do with the windmill wrecking.
When windmills go horribly wrong:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmM3KQnFmXs
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"Until we have some idea, some plausible explanation that it was not a UFO, I don't think we should rule it out".

Sounds like a UFO is the default explanation.

Why do I get a mental image of Rimmer in Red Dwarf yelling "Aliens!"?
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Them aliens are obviously green .... if they are invetigating wind power.

Maybe they are in their ship and see the turbines and say: "Hey! That's clever! Why didn't we think of that? If we get real close maybe we can take a sample piece back with us" <CLANG!> "ooops! Forgot to allow for the wind direction!" They can cross light years of space, but get hit by a wind turbine..... yeah! Right!

Iced up blade maybe, possibly a slight crack in it let in water, which then froze and weakened it?

Or perhaps a very slight fault in manufacture gradually weakened by fatigue and cold .....

Lincolnshire is the area where (I believe) the Red Arrows air base is, maybe there were some of them flying around the area, and just distance and direction made it look like there were lights around the turbines???

Who knows? But until the findings are announced, the 'lights' or whatever they were will remain exactly as described as UFO's - UNIDENTIFIED Flying Objects!

Any other thoughts or theories what could have caused it? Perhaps we could all have an educated guess and see who gets closest to the real reason, which will almost certainly (IMHO) turn out to be something relatively mundane like the iced blade or manufactured default ideas mentioned above.
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I'm sure it was a pterodactyl.
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Now CNN has a video on the incident (with scare-mongering..)

ttp://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/eur...ine/index.html

Some people will take this seriously!
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