....4.++-----+------+-------+------+--*****
......+.gnuplot>....+.......+....******###+
..3.5.++.set.term.dumb........****...##..++
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....3.++.set.nokey.......***....###......++
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......+**#...plot.[0:1].sin(x*1.5)*4,.x*4
....0.**-----+------+-------+------+-----++
......0.....0.2....0.4.....0.6....0.8.....1
this model assumes 4 Billion cm in 1 billion
YEARS at 4 cm/y. I on the other hand choose another modle.

1: May as well begin this Constant velocity version
2: Even though i'll not do very well HERE
3: the moon orbits Earth at about 4billion cm R
4: SO their4 its Circumferance must equal about 8PI
5: OR. around 25e9 CM? in 29d*24h*60m*60s=25e5
6: 25e9cm/25e5s 1e4cm/s 10,000 Centimeters/sec
7: and thats my "CURRENT" constant velocity figure 1e4
8: the current Math Model [/~] is the insertion model

1: accordin to this 1e4 constant velocity model
2: it only took 4e9/1e4=4e5 Seconds to reach
3: "INSERTION" IN OTHER WORDS..400,000/60/60/24
4: about 4.5 days. This means that FOUR & 1/2
5: "DAYS" after detachment From Earth the meterials
6: that formed the Moon were at the altitude WHERE
7: LUNAR orbital insertion took place and the Moon
8: has been aproximatly there ever since. < 2.4e8y

1: this chosen form [/~ the insertion ] aka
2: ( Constant Velocity ) Model of Moon Motion
3: depends upon TWO very Large portions of
4: astrolopolis traveling together tward Earth
5: AND the SUN. the First Smaller piece OF 2
6: collides with A fractured Earth & Launces
7: debries4M. The Second Larger ASTroTrailer4.5
8: days later passes near & "inserts" D'bin2orb

On 2002-03-30 00:38, HUb' wrote: TO: HUb' 2-3-30 9:18 P.M.
excellent NOT even D`baitable. i rest my C_ace

This B.War that has become so dull i've
started reading the "GENERAL" brings in this
1100 mph.......|HUb'4:03 A.M. 1100m to m ?
Kaptain K.......| i'd best consult a calc?
Bad PhD.........| just a minuite OK it said
From: Elgin, Tx | 1 in = 2.54 cmSO
1100m5280=5808000.ftx12=696960000inx2.54=
1.7e8cm/hr? 60x60 47222 cm/s vs my old # of
1e4 or 4.7 times faster? {no explaination}
in other words it took one day {24hr} to reach insertion using Texan numbers.. {oh My}

I'm sorry HUb'. My previous math was in error (by a factor of 2). The speed should be close to 2250 mph (3625 kph).

ahha a new # & from Taxus1 whoo EnRight'Rs
Ok Just how high's the moon
http://almagest.as.utexas.edu/~rlr/mlrs.html
and how fas was "SHE" going as she past
the Pole_Ice.. now i've my doubts about
those 2 also { oh my } [oh well gotta go]

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On 2002-04-01 09:18, HUb' wrote: To: yeah, yeah
now i get 10.78e5 {oh my}

<a name="20020404.6:56"> page 20020404.6:56 aka Cm/S
http://www.badastronomy.com/phpBB/vi...=2&start=75&90
1) Linear speed of the Moon: v = Cme/T = 8.993 x 107 m/day
V = 6.645 x 108 m/day
V = 6.645 x 108 m/day = 7,690 m/s
HYPOTHESIS II
http://members.aol.com/gredm98192/tides/hypoth02.htm
or V = 6997 meters per second
well I get all sorts of numbers from various
places and non make much sence to me just now. Cm/S

troubled times? 5:49 A.M.ok in a hour its Math Time so i'll begin NOW Before Daylight
begin in the index with ellipse, A15 {um its in an Appendix}
5: Graph x^2/a^2+y^2/b^2=1,a>b Graph x^2/b^2+y^2/a^2,a>b
4: _line 28 can be written x^2/a^2+y^2/b^2=1,(b^2=a^2-c^2)
3: Defign a positive number b by b^2=a^2-c^2
2: finally x^2/a^2+y^2/(a^2-c^2)=1 : answers on top NOT below
1: NOW Square again to obtain .. ^ : READ line 1 1st Then Li2
-- a^2(x^2+2c*x+c^2+y^2) = a^4+2*a^2*c*x+c^2*x^2
Listen this read bottom to top has me
"stimied". i did try to convert this to a
gnuplot script..without sucess..
any help appriciated see next few posts

5:52 A.M. 1: Send bugs and comments to bug-
2: gnuplot> set term vgalib
3: Terminal type set to 'vgalib'
4: gnuplot> plot x^2/a^2+y^2/b^2
5: undefined variable: a
6: gnuplot> a=1
7: gnuplot> b=2
8: gnuplot> plot x^2/a^2+y^2/b^2
9: non-integer passed to boolean operator
5:53 A.M. so i did not get a PROPER plot? any HELP appriciated. Eclipse?

5:55 A.M. 1: 5:52 A.M. so I struggled with that equation
2: x**2/2+y**2/1=1 to attempt a PLOT of it using
3: "gnuplot" but it aluded me for an April Math
4: HOUR.. I have all three problems
5: as far as i can tell
6: Lexicon? ^ or ** kinds of Questions
7: syntax F(x,y)= some type an idea
8: and conceptual thatFoul(x,y)=
9: well never mind its currently unexplainable {maybe Later}
So? Listen: I've lost it trying to write a
gnuplot script to plot a graph of an "ELIPSE"
from the F(x,y)= form.. I could proably get
one using SiN & COS but would prefer to stick with x,y
anyway its been years since i've gnu`D so be
paitient on this 1. THE END of L.C. 4today

Send bugs and comments to gnuplot> set term dumb<pre>
gnuplot> set term vgalib Terminal type set to 'dumb'
Terminal type set to 'vgalib' gnuplot> f(x)= (x**2)/-6
gnuplot> f(x)=(-6*x)**.5 0 ++-+--+-+-*********-+-+--+-++
plot f(x) -4 ++ + +****+ + +****+ + ++
this approach yealded the -6 ++ *** : f(x)*****++
proper orentation, but -10 ++ *** : *** ++
less than half of the curve -12 +*** : ***+
and their4 was abandon for -16 ** + + + + + + + + + **
the plot over there -18 *+-+--+-+--+--+--+--+-+--+-+*
on the RIGHT ====> -10 -8 -6-4 -2 0 2 4 6 8 10
....:....|....:....|....:....|....:....|....:....| ....:</pre>
1:5:05 A.M. April 7, 2002 Math hour? (y-k)^2=4p(x-h) ?
2:So? theres no connections at this time today so i'll
3:do the book[calculus.HYDE] THING? Ch 10 "CONICS"
4:#9 Find the vertex, focus,and directrix of the
5:PARABOLA y^2=-6x ? (y-0)^2=4(-3//2)(x-0) THUS
6:K=0,H=0,P=-3/2 ..| VERTEX,(h,k)0,0)7:FOCUS (h+p,k): (-3/2,0) & directrix (x=h-p): x=3/2

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....:....|....:....|....:....|....:....|....:....| ....:</pre>
1: ok 5:34 A.M. Math hour and the problem WAS
2: using gnuplot [DOWNLOAD FROM]
ftp://ftp.dartmouth.edu/pub/gnuplot
4: THAT: i could not plot even a parabola
5: without Rotating the AXIS .. so thats
6: WHERE i B? Rotate an axis
7: 5:38 A.M. ch 10 CONICS
8: 10.4 "_Rotation and the General Second Degree Equation_"
9:Rotate to eliminate xy term 9*X**2+24*X*Y+16*Y**2+90*X-130*Y=0 [SKETCH]

Calculus Chapter 10 Section 10.4 Rotation
#9.page 343 Rotate the axes to eliminate the xy term
in the equation 5*x^2-2*x*y+5*y^2-12=0. Sketch the graph,
of the resulting equation [ (x'^2)/3+(y'^2)/2=1 ]showing
both sets of axes.//TilT\ in as much as the gnuplot
solution in terms of X & Y aludes me at this time.
i'll attempt a general solution using sin & cos ?/?
<pre>
2 ++-+-+--+-+--+-+--+++ set para
1.5 ++ + + + + + + +++ set term dumb
1 ++ : ****++ set size .4,.47
0.5 ++ ********* ++ set xrange [-2:2]
0 ++...**.......**...++ set yrange [-2:2]
-0.5 ++ ********* ++ plot cos(t), .5*sin(t)
-1 ++ : ++ ---------------------
-1.5 ++ + + + + + + +++ | this was "MY" final
-2 ++-+-+--+-+--+-+--+++ |Solution for ellipse
1:
2:
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9:</pre>

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Well, it obviously makes sense to HUb'. He's carried on a whole conversation.

I have never been able to fully comprehend HUb's posts. How anyone else?

__________________
~AstroMike

I've always wondered (from Roger Rabbit) "Does anyone understand what this duck is saying?"

I guess it's better than a Vorlon chorus of windchimes...

(The B.A. has frowned upon people making fun of Hub', but, sheesh, c'mon, it isn't as if we're disparaging him; we simply don't comprehend him!)

Silas

Most people here frown upon people who make fun of Hub', me included.

I've managed to get to know Hub' through here, e-mail, and he's much more than just pound signs on some BB.

I've helped him to be around on this new BB, and I'm happy to have done it in spite of what some people might think.

You might as well speak to him if you want to understand him.

<a name="20020416.2:38"> page 20020416.2:38 aka Tanks again?
On 2002-04-15 21:12, Mr. X wrote:
Most people here { & elseWhere I may add }
2:39 P.M. for my part i'll say:::
I've managed to get to know Hub' through here, e-mail, and he's much more than just pound signs on some BB.
2:40 P.M. there are reason i sugest you not get
I've helped him to be around on this new BB, and I'm happy to have done it in spite of what some people might think.
2:40 P.M. as close as 8000 knotical yards
You might as well speak to him if you want to understand him.
2:41 P.M. from 100 Megaton {um 100,000 Kt} really its to close if you can comprehend it?

YEAH; Yeah, yeah. it can be darn confusing
EVEN for me: to begin with?
Ill-LOGICAL Negativism : Logical Positivism
can at best only be understood
about 1/4 of the time
and that by me the I`ll Lo
I meant I'll Li
I guess my main point would be
dont get to close to an event
on the obliteration range [ that around 10^30 ergs ]
as i recall..but i'll recheck it just a second <pre>
??Myr ?+25 _puff e 42 #O___blartor !wowe (21)
oh nope O.blitz are 10^42nd its Tp.actors that are 10^30 ergs my error</pre>

April 18, 2002 in conclusion
I will once again mention ROTATION OF THE AXIS
and leave the conclusion at that.
Many year ago I was introduced to an
"_AMPLODYNE_" its a DC Moter Generator
containing a shorted armature..
the result of all the device was to create
a very large change in output current
with a very small input current.. {ENOUGH}
So anyway what i say now, this is not about
points and lines and "Astronomy" at all.
its about Fields & Rotating the Axis
{and yes I think it matters how fast}
In this case its the magnetic field
and the shorted armature sets up a secondary
BIG FIELD .. and the second set of brushes [yes there are 2] but never mind out of lines.

May 20, 2002 6:58 A.M. PST (dreged up from page 5) to add
Type of Month Length in Days Length in Days
Nodic 27.21220 days 27.212221 days
Tropical not given 27.321582 days
Sidereal 27.32166 days 27.321662 days
Anomalistic 27.66466 days 27.554550 days
Synodic 29.530588 days 29.530589 days
:::::::::::::::|
27.321662 days for 1994-1998 (3600s/hr*24hr/d*27.321662=n1.5968)
The Sidereal Month is the length of time for the Moon
to revolve around the Earth with respect to the fixed stars.
27.212221 days in 1994-2000
The Draconic Month (what you keep calling the "Nodic" Month)
is the length of time for the Moon to cross the ecliptic twice.
With that in mind, what are you trying to show?
hUB' WOULD LIKE TO KNOW: first `poise that Earth has resonance
{rings like a bell} say 7.5 Hz? When are the R years? 7.5Hz*x=n.0:::::::::::::::|
HUb' SA' ?7:00 A.M. PST "its the DAte interval's to watch4 7:00 A.M.PST
_botttum line believe what U like's 7:01 A.M.

<a name="20020522.6:57"> page 20020522.6:57 aka ||(){}
On 2002-05-20 11:03, HUb' wrote: To: page 2
[]
Lorentz
()
Maxwell
{}
Gravity
---------
!|[({-=~=-})]|! Spice & Beyound
beyound SPICE
DE200?

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<a name="20020526.2:39"> page 20020526.2:39 aka Dec Densiy
On 2002-05-22 11:02, HUb' wrote: To: 2:39 A.M.
this posts main objective WAS to decrease
the Density of my post here on page 1.
yes spead them out to a Defensive poise
Anyway2: I have NOOT foud the DownLoad
Site for the SPICEs
in spite of my searching about.
those "kernals" MUST be somewhere

On 2002-04-18 10:54, HUb' wrote: to?
April 18, 2002 then October 15, 2002 10-4=6= 1/2 year
according to my view of the solar system$
alignment .. THE MOON is near its first
quarter position so if i drew
(Earth) & {Moon} at first 1/4
rotation CCW from above {North looking South}
the (SUN) would form the triad below?
--------
Well so much for my Lunar math for today
six months later
================
the point i was trying to raise was
"LULL@1st.1/4" which I shold have looked for
when i got bogged down in looking for the
keystrokes to LOAD .scr files ito debug
::: {oh well} REMember its an Active "ACTIVE" Applause,
and that activity May obscure the LULL .. I hope NOT

Type of Month Length in Days Length in Days
Nodic 27.21220 days 27.212221 days
Tropical not given 27.321582 days
Sidereal 27.32166 days 27.321662 days
Anomalistic 27.66466 days 27.554550 days
Synodic 29.530588 days 29.530589 days
:::::::::::::::|
27.321662 days for 1994-1998 (3600s/hr*24hr/d*27.321662=n1.5968)
The Sidereal Month is the length of time for the Moon
to revolve around the Earth with respect to the fixed stars.
27.212221 days in 1994-2000
The Draconic Month (what you keep calling the "Nodic" Month)
is the length of time for the Moon to cross the ecliptic twice.
With that in mind, what are you trying to show?
THE three rates of change (in the rate of change} are4:
Synodic {Full to Full /New2New /1/4 to 1/4 etc}
Perigee cyclce (insert days) perigee to perigee
its probably longer ?
and a far North to far North ..& its the decay in this last one FIRST