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Old 21-July-2009, 09:38 PM
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Question Stanley Kubric faked Apollo 11??

I hope a moderator can hide this link, as I cannot get this computer (ancient) to do the backtrack thing....

http://www.sacredmysteries.com/public/263.cfm

According to this Stanley faked it...

Warning: This site will give your logic program a headache....

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Old 21-July-2009, 09:44 PM
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I'm not looking at the site from my current location, but when Kubrik is mentioned in this context, it probably came from here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Si...n_(documentary)

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Dark Side of the Moon is a French mockumentary by director William Karel which originally aired on Arte in 2002 with the title Opération Lune. The basic premise for the film is the theory that the television footage from the Apollo 11 Moon landing was faked and actually recorded in a studio by the CIA with help from director Stanley Kubrick. It features some surprising guest appearances, most notably by Donald Rumsfeld, Dr. Henry Kissinger, Alexander Haig, Buzz Aldrin and Stanley Kubrick's widow, Christiane Kubrick.
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It is finally revealed that this is a mockumentary as the end credits roll over a montage of blooper reels, with the main participants laughing over the absurdity of their lines or questioning if particular ones would give the joke away too soon.
(emphasis added) It's amazing how many either don't bother to watch the end credits, or ignore them.
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I've seen a new one on that; http://jayweidner.com/AlchemicalKubrickIIa.html

On the plus side, he actually knows Kubrick used front-screen projection, not blue-screen technique. On the minus side, his rationale for the Moon Hoax involves a plan by JFK to force NASA to reveal their fleet of Nazi Flying Saucers (TM).
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He stole a graphic from Clavius, so he must clearly have seen my explanation for the terrain features he proposes to attribute to process effects.
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Old 22-July-2009, 12:51 AM
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My favorite parody is the one where Kubrick decides that it's too expensive to simulate lunar gravity, so they film the whole fake on location.
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Where I lost all respect for him was when he approves on one of Ralph Rene's geometric aberrations... pairing it with an "explanatory" model that does exactly the opposite of what the photograph shows.
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Old 28-July-2009, 03:11 AM
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'Dark Side of the Moon' screened on SBS (an Australian multicultural broadcaster) again last night. It is very funny (I loved the 150,000 paratroopers and half of the US 6th Fleet searching for the 4 film crew members, and the guy who was hiding out in the synagogue who became bitter about the experience, whom the rabbi described as an 'acidic' Jew), However it makes you cringe a little as well, because every time it screens, you know there are people that won't realise that it's a send up.
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I watched it too, and they really stepped it up to ridiculous levels in the second half in case people hadn't picked up during the first half. It's scary to think people wouldn't notice from the show alone, regardless of the credits.

Pretty entertaining piece of satire though.
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=29KO7jHeHRY (around th :30-:40 point)
I was directed towards this odd clip that appears to show an object through part of the PLSS. This is supposed to be 'proof' of image composition been used in Apollo video part of the alleged fakery. While things are rarely (read:never) as what the conspiracy theorists claim, I can not deny that I personally can not explain it. Can you people do better?
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Old 28-July-2009, 10:58 PM
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=29KO7jHeHRY (around th :30-:40 point)
I was directed towards this odd clip that appears to show an object through part of the PLSS. This is supposed to be 'proof' of image composition been used in Apollo video part of the alleged fakery. While things are rarely (read:never) as what the conspiracy theorists claim, I can not deny that I personally can not explain it. Can you people do better?
Virtual LM has a section on the PLSS/OPS that may shed some light. It's not highly detailed, but it shows a pair of notches, one on either side, in the thermal insulation (outer cover) of the OPS at just about the position that section of the video shows.

It's not clear from the drawings what these were for. The underlying "hard cover" has what appear to be a pair of rings, again one on each side, that can be reached through the notches. It's possible that these were just mechanical attachments used to secure the OPS for storage, or some similar function.

In any case, it seems that the video merely shows a background object (part of the LRV, maybe) through the notch on the near side. The "view through" may be partally blocked from some angles, either by the ring I mentioned or by the OPS umbilical (which is routed near that area on this side).

I'll drag out the CD and see if there are any better-labeled drawings on it.

As for the rest of the video, I didn't even notice what was supposed to be anomalous.
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Well, I found another drawing in the Apollo Operations Handbook section on the EMU. It shows the notch in the OPS but it's not labeled either.
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Well, thank you very much for your help. Anything else you dig up would be much appreciated.
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Default mounting slots on OPS

I've been battling this one (from "greenmagoos") myself, and yes it's just a slot through the corner of the OPS. There's also a D-ring in front of it.

Pictures AS17-134-20384 through 20387 show that corner of the OPS in focus, and you can see the slot. The D-ring is a little harder to see since it's nearly edge-on.

Those attachment points seem to have been redesigned in the later flights to make the OPS easier to attach to the back of the CMP's helmet during his EVA on the way home.

Needless to say, our friend is quite unwilling to concede the obvious.
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Greenmagoos claims that the antenna in the background is visible through the D-ring as if the D-ring wasn't there. He fails to understand that the bright white antenna saturates the camera's video tube, creating a latent and trailing afterimage of it as the video camera is panned or when the astronaut moves in front of the antenna. I guess greenmagoos has never watched old B&W TV reruns where this latent and fading images of very brightly lit objects trail across the screen when the video camera was panned.
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