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Old 16-August-2009, 08:37 PM
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Can anyone tell me anything about the Nazi Saucers? I believe the Haunebu (mk2) was designed to reach Mars on a one way trip. Unfortunately for the crew of the german saucer project, it was rumoured to be run from nazi subterranean antarctic bases, rumored to have been the arena for an unpublished second round of allied nuclear bombing long after WW2.

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Old 16-August-2009, 09:38 PM
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I know that Hitler was insane, but even an insane person would nt waste money and resources on a Mars trip while involved in a two front world war. The Nazi Saucer story is fiction, placed in books to make money.
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Old 16-August-2009, 09:56 PM
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Sounds intriguing,ive never even heard of this,obviously it isnt true though.
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Can anyone tell me anything about the Nazi Saucers? I believe the Haribo (mk2) was designed to reach Mars on a one way trip. Unfortunately for the crew of the german saucer project, it was rumoured to be run from nazi subterranean antarctic bases, rumored to have been the arena for an unpublished second round of allied nuclear bombing long after WW2.
What evidence do you have to back up this claim? In your post I see only phrases like "I believe" and "It was rumored".
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Old 16-August-2009, 11:23 PM
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Folks might find this entry fun to read:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_UFOs

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Nazi UFO (German: Rundflugzeug, Feuerball, Diskus, Haunebu, Hauneburg-Geräte, VRIL, Kugelblitz, Andromeda-Geräte, Flugkreisel, Kugelwaffen or ironically Reichsflugscheiben) refers to claims about advanced aircraft or spacecraft Nazi Germany supposedly developed during World War II. Some believe that Nazi scientists continued to develop these flying saucers in secret underground bunkers in the New Swabia region of Antarctica. References to such craft appear mostly in science fiction, conspiracy theory, and underground comic book sources.
The Space Nazi science fiction theme has been around for a while.
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Old 16-August-2009, 11:55 PM
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What evidence do you have to back up this claim? In your post I see only phrases like "I believe" and "It was rumored".
I have not claimed anything or to have any evidence of this, that's why I said 'rumoured'. As a 'Skeptic' on many conspiracies, I don't believe it myself (perhaps I should have said in my original statement that I am led to 'believe by others'. Just interested to know if anyone knows anything about it!

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Old 17-August-2009, 12:08 AM
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Folks might find this entry fun to read:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_UFOs



The Space Nazi science fiction theme has been around for a while.
Now!.......... This is a Conspiracy Theory Science Forum, please, don't get me into the elves thing.
Being from Ireland, there's a subject I might believe!
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Frankly, I don't think the penguins would put up with that sort of shennanigans.
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I've heard the stories for years, and have seen exactly zero evidence to support them.

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Luftwaffe 1946 has some interesting designs that look sort like fliying saucers, like this Focke-Wulf VTOL project, but it looks not so much like a flying saucer as a flying spatula.
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Frankly, I don't think the penguins would put up with that sort of shennanigans.
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If Russian troops managed to loot any tea services at the Reichs Chancellery there might well be some Nazi saucers around today.
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If Russian troops managed to loot any tea services at the Reichs Chancellery there might well be some Nazi saucers around today.
And if they were destroyed at the end of a hyperbolic arc, there would have been some very short lived Nazi flying saucers even.
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'Tis interesting to speculate how far the Nazis would have got had they not blown their budget on the V2 and blown their troops in Russia.
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'Tis interesting to speculate how far the Nazis would have got had they not blown their budget on the V2 and blown their troops in Russia.
It is not interesting to speculate on that, it would be terrifying to think what would have happened. The Nazis were evil murderers of millions.
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Old 18-August-2009, 05:27 AM
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It is not interesting to speculate on that, it would be terrifying to think what would have happened. The Nazis were evil murderers of millions.
"Interesting" does not always mean "because I wish it had happened." Past-tense historical speculation is interesting; personally, though, my suspicion is that the Nazi government would have just fallen in a different way. With such an unstable man insisting on complete control of strategy, it just couldn't end well for his side.
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And, of course, actually believing that you are superior and smarter than everybody else doesn't help matters either. The ineptitude of many of Hitler's generals has been duly noted in many history books.
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To be fair, he did have some very competent men to call upon, Rommel springs to mind very easily. However, Hitler's paranoia, and ego often got in the way, forcing them to do without badly needed supplies, have a lot of their troops diverted to other areas, attack places/enemy troops that had little to no strategic value, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

Then again, decisions like switching the bombers to hit London, instead of finishing off the severely weakened RAF airfields in the Battle of Britain, and invading Russia after failing to gain control of the skies over Britain didn't help much either.

I for one am fairly happy Hitler also decided to stop researching nuclear weapons after a few setbacks (Norwegian Resistance destroying their supply of Heavy Water at Telemark).

There's an aphorism in studying WW2 in Europe : "Hitler was the Allies' best asset."
He made just the wrong decision at just the wrong time (For Germany) too many times for his own good. He was extraordinarily lucky too - surviving gods-knows how many assassination attempts (Mind you - Churchill had that luck too).
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Thanks to all who replied here. I originally thought the saucers were called Haribos and could only find info about fruit gums when I researched haribos on the internet. Have now found out that they were called haunebu and I can find plenty of info on the them.
I think we should let the discussion rest unless anyone else wants to carry it on. Thanks again for your interesting replies to a Newbie.
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With such an unstable man insisting on complete control of strategy, it just couldn't end well for his side.
Yep, I think Hitler believed his own hype after initially benefitting from a global economic upturn, the public works policies of the previous (Weimar) government, American isolationism and the Brits being distracted by Palestine and the abdication crisis. Sadly for him he underestimated how much oil he would need to rule the world and was forced into a premature attack on the USSR. (World War One was also an oil war of sorts - the effect of the Berlin-Baghdad railway on the arms race, for instance).
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I think it's best to halt speculation on history here, as it is not directly related to conspiracy theories nor the type of CT we allow in this sub-forum.
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I think it's best to halt speculation on history here, as it is not directly related to conspiracy theories nor the type of CT we allow in this sub-forum.
Likewise, if this is a discussion about science fiction, that does not belong here. However, let me point out that the unfitness of this idea is completely unconnected to how we feel about Oisin. Oisin, you are welcome and encouraged to participate. You'll find ways to be useful, and get useful things from us.
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Thanks for your replies 'pzkpfw' and 'antonisbe'. and I agree this discussion should stop now.
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