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Please let the people of the world know.. This is real, our lives may not matter to you because you get paid to lie, but please don't withhold this information from the public.

This article was written by a group of well respected astronomers and scientists that tell the truth, which is very hard to come by now a days.

Please let there be light in America, All my posts about alien moon bases with pictures I had pointed out, they are real.. All of my conspiracy posts are all real. Just I beg you to quit lying to the people and stand with us in our glory of this world. Thank God (there is no such thing) for our friendly ET friends or we would not be here having this conversation.

Do not say there are no aliens, do not lie about the way space works, because you know nothing besides what astronomers of the 15th century taught you. America never graduated, we are living in a world that is restricted by what the first generation of astronomy taught us. Please grow and think outside the box and help us save this planet, our time is short.

Our laws of physics are based off of theories from hundreds of years ago, which half have been disproved. You are SCIENTISTS. Act like it. Help us save this beautiful paradise world that we live in, help us grow to become a powerful and loving civilization.. There is hope for humanity if we all just work and believe together.

Most of these photos have been deleted from NASA's site completely. Luckily I saved backups of every one.


Good. First of all, thanks for your attention. First of all, thanks for your attention. We know that yesterday's article has generated much excitement (not to) and here are the promised explanation. We know that yesterday's article has generated much excitement (not to) and here are the promised explanation.

First of all, make clear that we are scientists. First of all, make clear that we are scientists. Skeptics in itself, but with an open mind. Skeptics in itself, but with an open mind. And perhaps this latter is what most needed now. And perhaps this latter is what most needed now. The evidence is there, and it is not something one can deny. They are still images captured by NASA itself. The evidence is there, and it is not something one can deny. Do not cease to be images taken by NASA itself.

I stress this because ALL members of the team has caught us by surprise an event of this caliber. Because I stress this ALL members of the team has caught us by surprise an event of this caliber.

First show the evidence, analyze it and then come to the conclusions. First show the evidence, analyze it and then come to the conclusions.

Let's begin. Let's begin.

From the beginning of this blog, we are commenting that our solar system is binary. From the beginning of this blog, we are commenting that our solar system is binary. A brown dwarf has become the companion of our sun in a highly elliptical orbit, and therefore very long time. A brown dwarf has become the companion of our sun in a highly elliptical orbit, and Therefore very long time. This is what causes the changes in the Oort cloud, in the orbits of the outer planets and the slight movement of our sun. This is what causes the changes in the Oort cloud, in the orbits of the outer planets and the slight movement of our sun.

This brown dwarf has its own satellites and one of them, has an orbit far from it. This orbit comes into our solar system. This brown dwarf has its own satellites and one of them, has an orbit far from it. This orbit comes into our solar system.

Let us focus on that object. Let us focus on that object.

What we know so far is that it has a diameter of about 3000 km, it is full metal and its orbital velocity is extremely high. What we know so far is that it has a diameter of about 3000 km, it is full metal and its orbital velocity is extremely high. Over 200,000 km / h. Over 200,000 km / h. This makes it a planet / comet. This makes it a planet / comet. Why? Why?

As for high speed and cometary wake. As for high speed and cometary wake.

The orbit of this object has different phases, depending on the position of the brown dwarf orbiting. The orbit of this object has different phases, depending on the position of the brown dwarf orbiting. At the close of the brown dwarf (with respect to the sun), the more it gets into the solar system to each of their laps. At the close of the brown dwarf (with respect to the sun), the more it gets into the solar system to each of their laps. And within this vicinity there is a point we call "critical point". And within this vicinity there is a point we call "critical point". We will call you so because after crossing this point there is a risk that the object will be trapped in the solar gravity. We will call you so because after crossing this point there is a risk that the object will be trapped in the solar gravity.

We estimate this point is between 20 and 25 AU from the sun. We estimate this point is between 20 and 25 AU from the sun.

I see. The post is written in binary. Clever.

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"There is hope for humanity if we all just work and believe together."

Well actually there is more hope for humanity if we hold true FACT over FICTION.

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it shows you how much i know....not much i guess----"sohhfly"

1. * overestimate their own knowledge and ability, and underestimate that of acknowledged experts.
2. * insist that their alleged discoveries are urgently important.
3. * rarely if ever acknowledge any error, no matter how trivial.
4. * love to talk about their own beliefs, often in inappropriate social situations, but they tend to be bad listeners, and often appear to be uninterested in anyone else's experience or opinions.

I refuse to argue with * as it is not worth the time. I am not into fractured ceramics as a hobby.

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Brink, repeating everything doesn't make it any more true. Nor does shouting.

Fred

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I don't get paid to lie. In fact, I don't like seeing nonsense and unsupported claims being put forward as real.

I couldn't find their names. Could you list them? I'd like to see what they've done other than that blog.

Yet you've left a lot of unanswered questions about your claims.


You're starting to quote a blog you linked to, but you haven't indicated this in your post. Are you ready to defend the claims made in the blog?


Yes, let's focus on this object. They're claiming something with an orbital velocity around that of Mercury's maximum velocity closest to the sun. At that velocity, it isn't going to be held in a distant orbit by a brown dwarf.

By the way, I find the constant repetition in the blog very annoying. It certainly doesn't help to promote the claim.

ETA: It looks like you did the repeating. Why? Why?

And this just doesn't make sense, given the claims about the object's velocity. If these are respected astronomers, I would expect to see something that would make more sense. If they are proposing new physics, I would expect to see some detailed discussion on that.

What I see are SOHO images and crop circles.

An object going 200,000 km/hour is not going to be trapped at 20 to 25 AU from the sun.

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The Leif Ericson Cruiser

I changed my avatar. Nuff said.

BRINK. Brink... calm down. Where are you getting all this from ?
Its nonsense. None of the claims you have made are true... not a single one.
I spend many hours per week scanning the skies just looking for such as that asteroid or small fuzzy smudge that might be your doomsday impactor...comet. Just for the records we have found some objects of interest. Every one thus far has been confirmed as already listed or previously recorded. We will be forever vigilant. The prize of having my name attached to a comet
The point we are attempting to tell you is this. There are thousands of astronomers all across the globe. All are interested and are looking for just such objects... Not a single shred of fact in your fear scaremongering tripe. If you think you have knowledge of or have found some new object of concern, then share it with us. We will listen. But when you come screaming through the door pointing at a joke, we will not.

I'm not a scientist but you refuse to admit that all of the solar system is heating, not just earth.

You refuse to believe that aliens are real when there are 500 billion galaxies in the universe.

You refuse to believe that there anything going on on the moon when I show you proof.

You refuse to believe that there are ufos in space when I show you proof.

There is a "scientific explaination" for everything you can imagine.


From ice particles to "bugs" on a telescope in space, you refuse to believe that anything is bigger then you, pathetic human. I really hope that something huge happens just so you will be awake and see the truth.

You are liars and this forum is complete propaganda.

No America astronomers or NASA will tell you truth, but ask people from Europe, ask people from Russia.


Talk to Amatuer astronomers in other countries!

From NASA's website
http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news071.html

Read also

http://translate.google.com/translat...en%26num%3D100

http://translate.google.com/translat...en%26num%3D100

Look up LEGIT none conspiracy website sources.

and the list goes on, and on, and on.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/s...sday-twin.html


and on

http://www.space.com/news/090610-mil...fireballs.html


Get the picture?

brink, please answer my question: What are the names of these "respected astronomers"?

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what your have shown in the past is not proof just a lack of critical thinking.
but until you do, not much more can be said.
you are free to believe whatever you like,but thats not gonna go over well just by saying it or in your case repeating it.

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it shows you how much i know....not much i guess----"sohhfly"

I'm an amateur astronomer in another country, so I suppose you could talk to me.

It's nonsense. Those numbers are just not possible. Sorry.

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Van Rijn,

Answer my question, why the hell does a name matter when you are talking about the fate of our planet?

Will a name save the Earth? No. This is the problem with our species.

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Please do not disregard anything that makes you think, instead use your power to indeed THINK.

This is not a movie and civilizations get wiped out all the time, we are not special, in fact we are a very immature and sloppy, disgusting race.

Thank god for whoever is saving our [bad language deleted - Moose]. Although I feel that Western ignorance will surely be the death of us.

...because you get paid to lie

Please prove that I get paid to lie.

This article was written by a group of well respected astronomers and scientists...

I don't think so. I can't find any of their names, and they seem to characterize themselves as standing apart from "official" science.

You are liars and this forum is complete propaganda.

If you believe that and dislike it then you're welcome to leave it alone.

You are SCIENTISTS. Act like it.

Are we scientists or are we liars? As a matter of fact we are indeed acting like scientists: we are questioning the factual and interpretational basis of the "brown dwarf" claims. That's what scientists do, even to other scientists.

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Clavius Moon Base

How many "well respected astronomers and scientists" think crop circles are a reliable source of astronomical information?

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you sound like you have a bone with the west?
how about the 1000's of astronomer's on the other continent's who don't agree with you.........do you have some harsh and unfair word's for them too?

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it shows you how much i know....not much i guess----"sohhfly"

Answer my question, why the [vulgarity] does a name matter when you are talking about the fate of our planet?

Because you claimed this article was written by well-known astronomers, and indicated that we should thus take it seriously. Asking for the names of those astronomers, so that their qualifications and credibility can be assessed as requested, is a necessary consequence of your claim.

Please do not disregard anything that makes you think, instead use your power to indeed THINK.

Thinking means questioning claims according to the principles known and understood to result in a meaningful test of them. In fact you don't seem to want us to think; you seem to want us to accept these new claims without questioning them.

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Clavius Moon Base

I think that's the problem, your problem and this species problem. You think that anything is limited to "possible" nothing is impossible.

Anything can happen, we are the creators of this reality. There is not God only our higher self, something that I can't proof and that science will surely say is false. Espcially in this "illusion" of what we consider to be life. We are the ultimate container, the ultimate conduit, we are perfect and modeled from our "creator". We were dropped off in paradise only to turn it into ice cream and steaks.

I feel like I've spoken to a higher being, another person that is more knowledgable then any astronomer in the world.

I thought he was a wacko until he still is answering questions after 5 years. None stop. This is not "possible". Your life technically isn't even "possible".

I'm not trained to love, my job keeps me 40 hours a week grinding and restricting me from learning the things that matter in this life. I am very saddened that we could not learn from the mayans and become a spiritually civilization. I am very concerned that if the ET's stop saving us, we could instantly perish.

Brink, how do the people who wrote that article know that the crop circles are a reliable source of information? How do they know humans didn't make them as a joke?

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JayUtah,

You are the "ring leader". You are the ultimate debunker and I congratulate you for that. I cannot argue with a scientist because I believe everything that science has taught us is false.. all the way back to the very first astronomers. I think that this illusion and the terms here are all false and misunderstood, but I continue to be a good slave and stay within my boundries.

Why are we not focusing on energies instead of making radio waves go faster then the speed of light with silicon chips.. This is stupid!!!

What would be a better way for an ET civilization to warn us? How else would the whole world know????

There are RULES in this game, they cannot interact with us until we are ready. This is a loop hole, a special warning that we refuse to listen! Some bad looking crop circles are human made, but it is easy to tell which ones have "meaning"..

The mayans left of warnings of the great destroyer and no one even considers them to be real... people claim that they are false even though they had nothing besides there own eyes to see it with!!

The did not have disinfo back then and they most certainly did not make up fairy tales!

Really? There's a guy been writing an advice column in the local newspaper for about the last 15 to my knowledge.

Guess he must be the Messiah. I've always known him as Bob myself, but I'll be sure to give him far more respect next time I bump into him in the supermarket.

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"Certainly, in the topsy-turvy world of heavy rock, having a good solid piece of wood in your hand is often useful." - Ian Faith

See brink ,thats part of the problem is your good slave mentality.
you are afraid to challenge your belief to see if it holds true.
you just go happy go-lucky,but lady luck will surely creep out on you in the middle of the night.

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it shows you how much i know....not much i guess----"sohhfly"

You know, Brink, I really do feel sorry for you. You must be very frustrated, and it must be stressful to have people be rude and reject what you passionately believe to be a truth that is of great importance to all of us. It can't be easy.

That being said, I hope you can understand why people are rejecting what you passionately believe to be a truth that is of great importance to all of us. Science works. Every day. The methods you're scorning are methods that provide the world around you with the advantages you use every day. If the numbers that prove this thing wrong don't work, neither does anything involving gravity. The information we have relied on for years, the information which has been shown correct over and over again, wouldn't do anything. Our probes would fall out of the sky.

Do you see this? You believe, I know, that the world doesn't work that way, and I'm not expecting to convince you otherwise. I'm just hoping to show you why you're really going to have to present a lot of evidence.

ETA--Yes, actually, they did make up fairy tales back then. Well known.

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"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"

"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

Brink, the fact is that humans often make crop circles. How did these scientists determine that the crop circles in their photographs were made by aliens? Did they see the aliens make them? Just saying that crop circles would be a good way for aliens to talk to us does not prove anything.

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"One does not require alien ruins in order to absorb a profound sense of wonder and mystery from the moon. That our civilization had actually visited it is miracle enough." Jason Roberts

Who refuses to believe there are ETs? I think that many of us believe it's likely that there are other sentient beings in the universe. But we have no evidence of it at all. So it's just speculation at this point.

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Oh, I dunno. How about an all-frequencies broadcast, radio and TV, in the formats appropriate for each region? Sending dirty great ships to hover over major cities (cf. Childhood's End) and announcing it over loudspeakers (cf. Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy)? Visiting every major world leader and the UN to tell us that we're doomed? Blinking semaphore lights on the Moon?

Plain language, in any language, is far clearer than any crop circle.

Fred

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