Ok, if I buy some software to download Videos...

I would recommend against downloading videos that you intend to use for photographic analysis purposes. I recommend instead the DVDs produced by Spacecraft Films. They are of high quality and are sold at a reasonable price. All you need is a DVD player and a television.

...would that stop claims of me deliberately "obfuscating", making the quality poor etc??

Anything to improve the quality of your work would be appreciated. Recall that you came here rather stridently suggesting that we "skeptics" couldn't explain away your evidence. I think you have a new appreciation of the evidentiary bar you'll need to clear in order to be taken seriously.

I'm sure this will be a major exercise, seeing it took me 6 months of "frame-by-frame" analysis...

The length of time you expended in this effort is immaterial and does not curry sympathy. It took me only 30 minutes to conclusively identify one of your images, and I did not use a computer to do it.

If you find photographic analysis to be a difficult, time-consuming thing then I suggest you consider whether you want to make that an ongoing part of your life.

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I don't know where they are on the Internet:

I took the images all from Documentaries and other Apollo 11 Footage I collected, such as;

(Some more recent ones are
(1) In The Shadow Of The Moon
(2) The Time Of Apollo
(3) One Small Step
(4) The American Space Odyssey
(5) Dreams Of Flight

As far as I knoiw, you have to buy these DVDs, let alone my VHS copies...
After all, I had to.

About 30 different documentaries (all which I bought over the years...)

Google is your friend

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I didn't have to buy In the Shadow of the Moon, which I watched just this week. I got it out of my local library. I would suggest that your local library probably also has a lot of documentaries on the space program in general and Apollo in particular.

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"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

The word "renegade" suggests an active, positive decision. This clearly does not include dropping out of uni. Otherwise we'd have Renegade Chefs (people who never learnt to cook because it was too hard), Renegade Marathon Runners (people who give up and go home after half a mile because it's too hard), Renegade Mathematicians (people who give up as soon as they start studying calculus because it is too hard).

I would recomment that you refer to yourself as an unqualified researcher.

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I have them in one of my TVs - the electron guns in a CRT. They aren't a big deal in themselves.

That's a bit unlikely. A rail gun is typicially quite different from a device properly designed to accelerate subatomic particles. I suppose you might be able to use some of the bits, but it seems like just starting over would be easier.Perhaps you could explain your process? And, is there a point to this? Do-it-yourself rail guns are nice for geek-cred, but they aren't usually very practical.

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It's obvious: http://www.spacecraftfilms.com/. The number of offerings they have is intimidating.

A free source (but probably somewhat lower quality on the videos and films due to bandwidth) is the Apollo Lunar Surface Journal.

Either one has got to be better than photographing a TV screen.

Fred

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Nommos Prime (Dogon): In post 23 I gave my analysis of one your extremely poor-quality images, img019. I did not simply "dismiss" it, and instead named the crater below the LM, gave its former name, its size, its latitude and its longitude, as provided in the Hamlyn Atlas of the Moon, by Antonin Rukl, map 48. I described where I believe you got the image from and provided a link to a much better-quality still colour photo taken with a Hasselblad.

Do you agree with my identification, or are you denying it? If so on what basis? These are direct questions. Please answer them in full as the rules of this forum require.

I even pointed out that you have the wrong mission for that image -- it is from Apollo 16, not Apollo 11.

(1) In The Shadow Of The Moon
(2) The Time Of Apollo
(3) One Small Step
(4) The American Space Odyssey

I have all of those on DVD, along with many other Apollo documentaries, so please state exactly where on them you obtained your images so I can check my copies.

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Nommos Prime (Dogon)'s photo, img019.jpg, is indeed that of the ascent stage of the Apollo 16 Lunar Module Orion. As Kiwi wrote, the original source for the photo is a still from film footage taken with the 16mm Data Acquisition Camera aboard the Command Module Casper. (Footagevault provides a free, lower-resolution Adobe Flash video of the Apollo 16 rendezvous approach and LM inspection prior to docking. A free, downloadable 7.95 MB M4V video file of the sequence, playable with the VLC media player, is also available.) To produce img019.jpg, Nommos Prime (Dogon) used a camera to photograph his television screen.

The 70mm photo that best matches the 16mm still is AS16-122-19531, taken by Ken Mattingly with a Hasselblad camera and an 80mm lens. A high-resolution, 4400 x 4600 pixel version, ISD_highres_AS16_AS16-122-19531.JPG, is available from "The Gateway to Astronaut Photography of Earth" website. In AS16-122-19531, craters Messier and Messier A can be seen.

As for Nommos Prime (Dogon)'s "Saucer-like" structure on the lunar surface, it is, as Kiwi revealed, crater Lindbergh, previously designated as crater Messier G.

More documentation of Apollo 16's photography can be read in this 9.72 MB PDF, "APOLLO 16 INDEX OF 70 mm PHOTOGRAPHS AND 16 mm FILM STRIPS."

Nommos Prime (Dogon) provided a link to his About.com forum thread, "My Apollo 11 NASA Lunar UFO Finds." I found his Aug. 29th post on page 5 to be a sad and unpleasant read.

I have uploaded a snapshot from Footagevault's Apollo 16 rendezvous clip, footagevault.com_FTV-0002348-wmy.m4v, so that it can be compared with img019.jpg. VLC media player time index: 00:31.

ANSTO's ANTARES (Australian National Tandem Research Accelerator) is a tandem particle accelerator. The accelerator is also known as the Australian National Tandem Accelerator for Applied Research. It is located about 220 km northeast of Canberra at the Lucas Heights Science and Technology Centre.

Nommos Prime,

I understand that you played either a videotape or DVD and photographed
parts of the TV screen. The many light-colored specks and faint smudges
and shapes in the dark areas of your pictures suggest that you had the
photographs printed, then scanned them on a scanner. Is that correct?

-- Jeff, in Minneapolis

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Well, I spared all expense to produce my interpretation of ISD_highres_AS16_AS16-122-19531.JPG. With the freeware image viewer IrfanView v. 4.25, I flipped the image vertically and horizontally, converted to grayscale, resized from 4400 x 4600 pixels to 735 x 768 pixels, decreased brightness to -4, increased contrast to +82, and increased gamma correction to +1.04. I applied default sharpening and saved the new image at 90% quality to produce a 67 KB JPEG.

I believe this YouTube video, "Alan C Tolman Interview at FASTWALKERS Movie Premire," may help explain the origins of Nommos Prime's photo technique. A friend of Prime and a George Adamski devotee, Alan Gregory Tolman was given (c. 2000) to using his Pentax point-and-shoot camera mounted on a tripod to photograph telescopic Astrovid 2000 video images displayed on a 27" color television set. He then had prints made. I do not know if Tolman has ever recorded his video images to VHS, S-VHS, or Hi8 and then had them digitized with a frame grabber, like one of the old Snappy units. He explains his method in the YouTube video at time index 04:47-05:30.

At the About.com forum, Prime recommended this YouTube video, "Fastwalkers Alan Gregory Tolman."

Adamski the satellite engineer: While in The Hague in 1959, Adamski claimed that he contributed to the success of America's Explorer satellites by advising the U.S. that "the instruments had to be placed in a sphere with double walls in order to neutralize them." In the first YouTube video I mentioned above, at time index 04:19-04:39, Tolman described how Adamski's ET spaceships were constructed and how their crews were protected against adverse voltages.

The official trailer for FASTWALKERS (2006) is available at http://www.fastwalkers.com/FF_Trailer.htm. Warning: Sean David Morton appears in the trailer as a person you were never meant to meet...with a voice you were never meant to hear....

George never made it to his conference on Saturn, at least not in '62 -- poor guy. In his place, the GAF International/Adamski Foundation continues, but didn't Billy Meier snatch his "Space Brothers" and their easy-to-photograph craft?

Nommos Prime (Dogon) has responded to my Sep. 3rd message to him at the About.com forum by providing four links to Metacafe. The third link, under "My Apollo 11 UFO Video," will take you to Prime's Metacafe channel page. The videos on the other pages Prime linked to have been removed.

Prime's Metacafe channel page has one item listed, an Eidolon Production of a slideshow film by Nommos Prime (Dogon) titled "Lunar Anomalies" (aka "My NASA Lunar Anomalies"). The nearly 4½ minute film deals with "Artificial Structures on our MOON" and features the song "Heaven Knows" from the 1995 album Forgiven, Not Forgotten by The Corrs. At time index 02:15 using the VLC media player, we learn that the material presented will be "Photos taken from Apollo 11 Film(s), and 'Studies in Lunar Topography VIII' Research Paper by University of Manchester (USAF) - 1960."

I will limit my comments in this post to address only one "anomaly" in Prime's film. A film frame appears in two segments starting at 00:25 and 03:45, both the same. Prime describes the film frame at 03:45 as "APOLLO 11 and 'RUINED BUILDING' - Apollo 11 Film." The segment ends with an Emily Craggesque statement: "Square windows can be clearly seen!"

The film frame is actually from Apollo 17, not Apollo 11. It was taken with a 16mm DAC and a slightly wide-angle 18mm lens aboard the Apollo 17 Command Module America at an altitude of about 112 km above the lunar surface. To me, the so-called "ruined building" looks to be mostly a sunlit section of the inner wall and rim of a crater that is about 6.7 km in diameter. The crater is nearly centered on the rim of the 54 km diameter crater Schubert (Lat: 2.8°N, Long: 81.0°E). The "ruined building" measures to be about four or five km in length. Wearing my best pair of pareidolia eyeglasses, the "ruined building" in Prime's film and the lower-resolution video available from Footagevault looks like a short-legged tailless deer with long ears. Poor humongous thing, no wonder it's on the Moon.

A closeup of Prime's "ruined building" was posted at the About.com forum as img110.jpg.

Ronald Evans only caught about half of crater Schubert with his Hasselblad in AS17-149-22847. Fortunately, a high-resolution photograph of the crater was taken with a Fairchild Lunar Mapping Camera during Apollo 16, AS16-M-2901.

Alrighty. I guess that this is the image in question? I am downloading the raw image from ISD in order to fully process it. I will then post a link to my results.

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