Originally Posted by AGN Fuel

Wow - magnificent. Any better and Gene will be able to find his car keys.

Originally Posted by LaurelHS

But then there`s still the problem of actually retrieving his car keys... I`m not sure knowing where they are helps in this situation.

Originally Posted by chrlzs

Paul, I think that was exceptionally well put, and that principle is a VERY important one. By stating the HB side first, you are, in a way, giving it more importance than it deserves.

Originally Posted by BigDon

I think the next alignment is 2013.

Originally Posted by Paul Beardsley

Me too.

But it's given me ideas for what I would do if I ever do one.

First off, I'd give it a title like, "The Moon Landings: Is There Any Doubt?" (Note the use of the plural, given that some HBs are sure we only went once.)

I like a lot of the ideas here, especially those of chrlz (post 117) and Skyfire (post 127).

My approach would be as follows: Begin with a short film of the lunar rover driving at speed, kicking up dust (which falls back exactly as you'd expect in vacuum). Maybe follow this with a short film of a vehicle in the desert, kicking up dust which billows. Then ask the audience if they spotted any differences. (Maybe do something similar with hammer and feather - show the moon version, then show the same thing done on a bleak patch of wasteland, perhaps with somebody comically dressed up in a pretend spacesuit.)

So, right from the start they've seen something which simply couldn't be faked. Right from the start it's established that we went to the moon. The only downside of this is that latecomers would miss it - but you could state that you will show it again before the break, and be upfront and tell them why.

Next, a picture or two of some lovely place out in the country on a bright sunny day. Maybe include dogs and children, but definitely include a fair bit of sky, which is completely cloudless. Then, "Bear in mind this place is a long way from city lights. Imagine what the stars would be like at night time? Well, this is what I saw." The next slide shows the same view as the earlier one of the sky, but this time taken at night. And there are no stars. "Oops, I forgot to change the camera setting for night." Perhaps have a couple of slides of the camera setting being changed, followed by a picture of a sky full of stars. "Ah, that's better. And now here's a daytime picture with the night setting." Picture is a complete washout.

All this before the "no stars" argument is even mentioned.

Perhaps on that same walk in the countryside, show pictures of non-parallel shadows despite a single light source. Then show similar shadows on the moon, and explain, "Now some people believe this is evidence that the moon landings were filmed in a studio..."

Throughout, I think it is important to show how reality works before acknowledging the uninformed quibbles. We're not on the run here; reality doesn't need to excuse itself for not meeting the expectations of the ignorant.

Originally Posted by slang

I'm not sure how discussing this one helps.. there's so much yet unknown about the actual history of this object. It might be useful to explain the situation, that it was in storage, not actually displayed (with 2 brief exceptions, art displays, not scientific), and that the mistake was discovered as soon as a scientist had a look, but the question of "how could that happen?" will hover over it, and the answer "confusion" isn't acceptable to everyone.

Originally Posted by ToSeek

I like this approach and would gladly embrace it if I could do it justice. Unfortunately, the talk is next weekend, and I volunteered to give four hours of talks in all - this is just one hour. But I'll keep it in mind once I have more time.

Originally Posted by chrlzs

This one?:
CONSPIRACY REALIST vs Apollo

Originally Posted by ToSeek

That's the one, but when I bring it into PowerPoint it ends up with a black background, which pretty much wipes it out.

Originally Posted by ToSeek

That's the one, but when I bring it into PowerPoint it ends up with a black background, which pretty much wipes it out.

Originally Posted by ToSeek

I know I've seen some photos showing the internal structure of the lunar module, but I can't track them down at the moment. Help would be appreciated.

Originally Posted by ToSeek

That's the one, but when I bring it into PowerPoint it ends up with a black background, which pretty much wipes it out.

Originally Posted by Daggerstab

This page on building the module?
http://www.ehartwell.com/LM/index.htm

Originally Posted by Tobin Dax

I hate those. I usually print the screen and crop down to the image when that happens. See attached.

Originally Posted by ToSeek

Thanks. It's now in the presentation.

Originally Posted by ToSeek

For future reference, there are numerous good images here, too:

http://www.apolloarchive.com/apollo_gallery.html

Originally Posted by ToSeek

Next request: Videos that are too good to be special effects.

Suggestions welcome.

Originally Posted by R.A.F.

The 7+ minutes of video from the Lunar liftoff of Apollo 15.

Originally Posted by ToSeek

Next request: Videos that are too good to be special effects.

Suggestions welcome.

Originally Posted by moog

The Apollo 15 trench digging video would be a good one... probably a bit dull though.

Originally Posted by R.A.F.

chrizs....sounds like you're talking about the Apollo image atlas.