http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009...se-encounters/

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,534960,00.html



As this indicates highspeed underwater vessels. What types of propulsion would we be talking about- any ideas?

Those are some very vague news reports with really no citations. Not impressed so far.

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Both these reports are simply quoting another report from a Russian website, not exactly compelling. As for the latter claim of divers seeing humaniods in the depths of lake Baikal and several of them dying; doesn't that suggest faulty breathing apparatus rather than alien entities?

From the Russiatoday article:This link:

http://www.debunker.com/texts/apollo11.html

tells us just how through Mr. Azhazha is. It's a rather long read, but it is a debunking of the Apollo-11 "UFO sightings" and Mr. Azhazha appears near the end of it, so it is worth reading.

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realitydesign, how's about answering questions put to you in you thread about NASA being a military organization before starting a new one? And no, "the pictures speak for themselves" does not count as an answer.

Starfury, you will have to wait at least 3 days for a response because Realitydesign is suspended.

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