Okey guys I dont know if it's going to be 3 threads now cuse my internet have stopped working two times now, but here we go.

So I know that the Mayans had a very good and accurate calendar but they never predicted something like the end of the world with it and certainly not in the year 2012. Now every one at my school I's talking about it cuse the new trailer for the upcomming move 2012 has been realeasd.

One guy said that 2012 is an error in time. And I asked him why and he answerd me that he saw a video on youtube about it. OFC youtube is the most trust full internet site when it comes down to these kinda stuffs (or not).

Well here is the video about it. Is this something that we sould care about?
I find it very hard to belive that some one that only have made a youtube account would know such a thing, it's more likele that NASA that have the money to launch rockets in space would know such a thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuzuQIr_fPU

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nope, nothing.

Second statement is pretty much dead on, nasa, along with the millions of other astronomers and physicists world wide.
I wouldn't give it too much worry.

I got to 33 seconds before the sheer volume of misinformation started to hurt and I had to turn it off.

Okey well that was what I expected all the time, I just needed to here from some one that knew a little bitt more about space and astronomy than I do.

Thanks.

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Cue 0x69's list of links in 3... 2... 1...

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"Still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest." (Paul Simon)

Two movies that are really annoying me with their ads are '2012' and 'The Fourth Kind'. Both imply that they are revealing some secret truth and both are immune from any rational rebuttal. On Youtube even if the comments are disabled you can make your own page, you can't put your own 30 second ad on network TV to say it's all (insert your own expletive).

Then you likely don't want to hear about the proposed TV show based on the 2012 movie...

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Oh for the love of Higgs Boson, I like my sci-fi to know its sci-fi!

Sentient SF? Move to ATM!

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Links? You want links? Links?

Maybe later...

For now, here's a link to the links: article in topic We're not the only ones fighting 2012 nonsense for those who might want to know about the many false claims about year 2012.

This topic hasn't earned the full list yet.

Could though. I'm trying to hit 105, so every topic helps.

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Edit: It's gone on enough. The topic is onto page 2, so I'll slip them in here on page 1, so they don't get in the way of active participants. But they'll be here if anyone comes along later -- especially those that are alarmed by the meritless predictions for year 2012.

Here are some articles about the many aspects of the year 2012 predictions, and a long, long list of some BAUT Forum topics that have addressed the topic:

• Universe Today: No Doomsday in 2012
• Bad Astronomy Blog: 2012, the year nothing will happen
• Universe Today: 2012: No Planet X
• Universe Today: 2012: Planet X is not Nibiru
• Universe Today: 2012: No Killer Solar Flare
• Universe Today: 2012: No Geomagnetic Reversal
• Universe Today: 2012: No Comet
• Universe Today: Another Voice Against 2012 Mania
• Universe Today: 2012: Combat the Nonsense
• Astronomical Society of the Pacific: Doomsday 2012, the Planet Nibiru, and Cosmophobia (PDF)
• Discovery News: Top 10 Reasons Why the World Won't End in 2012
• NASA FAQ: 2012: Beginning of the End or Why the World Won't End?

1. 2003 no, 2012 si
2. 2012
3. End of Mayan Calendar
4. Pole shift / Planetary alignment 2012?
5. 2012 alignment question
6. about the Mayan 2012 item
7. 2012 Debunking?
8. Possible asteroid impact in 2012?
9. 2012 asteroid?
10. We don't have to worry about 2012!
11. More on 2012 from India Daily
12. 2012 Completion of conspiracy?
13. Here's what's REALLY going to happen in 2012...
14. crop circles, Planet X and 2012
15. Planet X, crop circles and 2012 cataclysma
16. According to the Mayans, what will happen on 23rd Dec. 2012?
17. More 2012 Nonsense
18. NEO 2012?
19. Dangerous NEO in 2012?
20. Christmas 2012
21. 2012 mayan calender end of world
22. Regarding the supposed polar shift/new ice age in 2012
23. New 2012 threat?
24. 2012 look at this thing on the sun
25. Russian Expert Predicts Global Cooling from 2012
26. Pole shift idea origins
27. Dec 20 2012
28. 2012 Stuff
29. No reply previous question
30. Horizon Project-New End of World Scare?
31. Date: December 21st 2012
32. Earth passing thru Galactic center in 2012 - didn't that already happen?
33. 2012: What do you think well happen (if anything)
34. So what will we see in 2012?
35. Galactic Tsunami?
36. Plane of the ecliptic of the galaxy?
37. Earth's Magnetic Field & 2012
38. 2012?
39. Any truth to this?
40. How can the sun be aligned with Galactic centre?
41. the whole 2012 poles flip nonsense
42. Planet X Official Advertisement
43. What year are we in
44. Quick question about the sun
45. Galactic Alignment
46. Books of 2012! -
47. 2007 = 2012
48. Return of Planet X By Rand
49. Don Alejandro - Mayan Elder.
50. Toutatis 4179: 2012?
51. Galactic Alignment in 2012 ?
52. Solar Storms
53. A real prediction!
54. NIBURU - Brown Dwarf, The DESTROYER
55. 2012 Galactic Alignment
56. Not 2012 again! But I cant help it~
57. New evidence for 2012 TEOTWAWKI!!!
58. this may be a silly question but...
59. Just to know if this is true
60. Just Wondering...
61. Planet X/Nibiru, is it real?
62. Youv heard this a million times.
63. Nibaru or Planet X
64. Mayan calendar
65. 2012 Article?
66. can i say something please on planet x
67. Nibiru
68. The growing earth.... :P
69. Our Solar System's Eclipse of the Galactic Plane on Dec 21, 2012?
70. Something scaring the hell out of me....
71. It's Only the end of the World AGAIN!!! (Woo Woo Alert)
72. 2021 Doomsday
73. is it just me or is the milky way brighter..?
74. Polar Shift in 2012?
75. I would like to ask about Nubiru stuff...
76. Bit behind the times, my appologies...
77. the "pole shift thing"
78. All the Truth about 2012
79. Confused about 2012 (yes, another one!)
80. Another paranoia mind due to 2012
81. novelty theory
82. Possibility of Pole Shift
83. 2012 Vectors
84. Nibiru Question
85. Odd things floating on google sky
86. 2012 end of the world?
87. 2012 and Solar Storms?
88. Nibiru
89. Sun polar shift weirdness.
90. Question? [2012]
91. December 21st 2012
92. 2012 is giving me a Headache
93. UN Agenda 21 and the coming pole reversal scare
94. Space storm alert: 90 seconds from catastrophe
95. Is there even something to this?
96. We're not the only ones fighting 2012 nonsense
97. True or not?

Woohoo. 97. And counting. (And a couple new allied articles.)

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Well in conclusion we can all agree of that all the 2012 stuff is just fake?

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Ha!

Just the other week, while sorting through the miscellany of my grand niece's leftover belongings (she was last heard from in Santiago, 17 months ago), beneath her dusty brass telescope and five-pound antique compass, I found this curious notation written in an unfamiliar script in the margin of an old book on the philosophical tenets of Mary C. S. Maker Addy:

2012 = 4 x 503

Refute that!

Exactly right. The ones who are loudest about it most likely are trying to make money off of it, one way or another.

The only thing of importance that will happen in December of 2012 will be the (counts on fingers) third annual re-celebration of my 49th birthday. Get those fire extinguishers ready for the cake...

Fred

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There will also be the celebration of my thirty-sixth birthday and my ren faire boss's forty-seventh.

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"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

Sorry but I dont get what you mean, do you mean that you think that something major is just around the corner or what?

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He was joking.

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Ok I guessed so.

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TheOneYouSeek, I took a look at the website linked in the picture in your OP. I think it's a great site, and you (is it your site?) are performing a valuable public service, helping expose the 2012 end of the world stuff for the total bovine excrement that it is.

The story about the little girl scared to death by it was heartbreaking, and illustrates that this stuff isn't harmless.

Dean Devlin and Roland Emmerich, the producers of the 2012 movie, as well as the producers of all the 2012 shockumentaries out now, should be thoroughly horsewhipped for scaring so many people, including children!!

Yes It's a great site, but it aint mine. I just posted the image with the link on so that any one that is afraid of this stuff can take a look at it.

As for Dean Devlin and Roland Emmerich, they will look so stupid on dec 22 2012 and I hope they will feel bad about the fear they have caused. I think that that cristmas will be one of the most happiest cristmas for the scared childern.

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I think we should invite Devlin & Emmerich (and/or the movie's promoters) here to chat about it. And I agree that very serious damage can be done to kids - you only have to look at some of the stuff that came out at the time of the peak of Nancy Lieder's Planet X debacle to see that. I wonder how much more of this sort of thing:
http://www.skepticalmind.com/personal_stories.html
will come from their movie and the hyping thereof, and whether they are up to discussing their responsibility... you know, the one that comes with 'free speech'.

Nancy's zeta-rubbish was relatively unheard of, but now I am finding that in my locally well-known role as a 'debunker', several folk have already asked me about the 2012 thing.

I would love to see that. Does anyone know how to contact them? I went to the 2012 movie site hoping to find a place to leave feedback to the Columbia/Sony Pictures people, but no luck.

Pffft. They'll feel sorry all the way to the bank. I, for one, will be staying away from this movie in droves. (I think I've used that line before, somewhere.)

Fred

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In the UK there are regulations on the contents of ads, they need to be trutful about claims, perhaps Columbia Pictures could explain where they found the proof that the Mayans predicted the end of the world?

When I as was at the 2012hoax website I found a link to wikipedia, it's a very good page,here it is


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_phenomenon

David Morrison also link to that page on his website.

There is only one thing that is bad with it and that is under the ''New Age'' part.
But I guess all those people just want to sell there book's.

Do you think that the ''New Age'' part i correct or just rubbish?

IMO it's rubbish.

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So adverts for a film like Superman would have to provide proof of the planet Krypton? or the Matrix would have to provide proof of ALiem Machines controlling us?

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captain swoop, in the trailer for the movie a vocie from a man says: ''The mayan calendar has predicted the end of the world on dec 21 2012.''

I hope some people understand that it is just a movie but I think sony could insert some kind of disiclaimer in the trailer but that is my own opinion.

But your statement is good, I think if some one that is worried about this would read this thread and then read your post would feel a bit calm.

As for the wikipedia link in my other post, what do you think about the ''New Age'' part?

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Rubbish.

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However, no one is spreading spurious, hysterical Internet stories about the purported existence of Superman or the Matrix. The History Channel doesn't run documentaries every night about the reality of Superman or the Matrix.

That's what makes 2012 different from your other examples. Unfortunately, there's money to be made in scaring people spitless, and the new movie and it's "viral" marketing makes things worse. Not to mention all the psuedo-documentaries on the History Channel, NatGeo and others. People, including young children, are being frightened by this nonsense, and it's just not right.

Actually, the exact opposite is the norm. How many completely made up ghost stories have been presented theatrically as being based on "true events".

As long as movie companies can make money by promoting this type of junk, then there is no reason for them to stop.

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Keep repeating to yourself "its only a movie, its only a movie, its only a movie." From an old movie trailer.

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