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Old 15-November-2009, 07:07 AM
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Default What are Alien Abductions about?

I think they are an off world biological research facility.
Other world biology might present all kinds of commercial applications.
They probobly harvest genetic material from many worlds.

Our genetics engineering firms would do the same if they had the access, and the infrastructure required to utilize the resource.

As long as they can evade and throw shadows at us.
Then they can get what they want for the cost of access.
Give us nothing in return for our inconvenience.

If I were ever abducted I would not accept anything they said at face value.
They are motivated to lie, more profitable.

They tell people what they want to hear.
Ever notice how many abductee claiments speak of an etherial message of love?
Like how they are giving us spiritual guidence.
While they rob us blind and disrupt our lives.

There will never be disclosure.
All the deals are under the table.
Our military does not want us to realize that they have traded access to earths gene pool for toys and trinkits.
They are never going to kill the golden goose with any real tech, something that could put us on more equal negotiating terms.
And our military industrial complex is willing to make major concessions for any little bit of tek they can get.

The general population are just unwitting bargaining chips.

I have been studying this thing for a while, and logic tells me this is the way of it.

Now you can assail me with demands of proof.
I have none.
But I think the phenomena is real.
I have had no firsthand experiance, that I am aware of.

And I am convinced of our military being the best there is on this planet.
And one thing they are, is masterfull contengency planners.
Whatever it is possible to know, they know.
It is their job to know, and they are good at it.

So the whole UFO and alien abduction thing is either nothing, or everything.

The evidence convincing me is how ignored the increasing scope abduction claims are.

The scope is indicitive of an actual phenomena.
We could argue that it is an entirely human phenomena.
If that were the case then mental health services would be concerned that so many have fallen victim.

Instead the victims are further victimized by the derision and ridicule directed at them by mainstream science.

If it were a growing mental abberation there Should be more genuine concern for finding the cause and the cure.

If it is a dirty little secret, then I expect the suppresive dismisal and the reluctence scientists have in going against the mainstream.

All of the studies I have read by mainstream science, were based on the premise that it is a human phenomena, and were biased to that end.

We all look to authority figures and peer pressure for basic guidence.

Project Bluebook and similar govrnment studies have set the tone.
They have fostered the concept that only the mentally unbalanced or the uneducated see UFO's or get abducted. Or those with fantasy/reality issues.

As in any field, there will be some in that catagory. Mostly wannabees.

But some seem to be pretty solid, aircraft pilots, police officers, and military personel are notable.

Also notable how much their motivations and character will be the first thing attacked.

So that is my CT and it is entirely by deduction of the stories.

It is an all or nothing scenario for me.
And I don't think it is nothing.


Political and professional suicide to go against the grain.
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Old 15-November-2009, 07:18 AM
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I'm surprised they haven't realized they can gain access to our genome by going through our garbage. The average used diper is an excellent source of DNA.
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Old 15-November-2009, 07:56 AM
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Well, here we have a civilization far more advanced than we are (able to travel between the stars in a reasonable amount of time,) and you claim they're here to harvest our genetic material. This requires specially-equipped ships, probably a base in-system somewhere, and hundreds of highly trained individuals willing to treat another sentient species as cattle.

I also note that your alien civilization seems to act exactly as if they were the worst of Humanity.

And yet, we're perhaps decades (or less) away from being able to efficiently move atoms around with nanotechnology. We will no doubt develop this ability long before we're able to get to even the nearest star. We'll be able to create and manipulate molecules (like DNA) on a massive scale.

So this alien race has decided to do it "the hard way?" Rather than just get a couple of samples from us and manipulate to their heart's content, they feel the need to get millions of samples and to keep getting them over decades.

I would say that your idea is the product of an active imagination, but really, it's the product of a lack of imagination. You see a phenomenon and you come up with a reason for it that fits your cynical world view. You don't stop to think that maybe sentient beings from another planet might not act like Wall Street brokers, and that if you're going to ascribe "magic" levels of science to them, you have to ascribe it to ALL of their sciences, not just spaceship design.

So which is more likely? That many people have alien-like sleep paralysis experiences, a number of hypnotherapists have no idea what they're doing, and PR firms for certain Hollywood movies promote anything that will raise interest in their client's product, - or - , that a super-advanced race (in every field but one) is abducting millions of people because they need...? Material?
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I have been studying this thing for a while, and logic tells me this is the way of it.

Now you can assail me with demands of proof.
I have none.
But I think the phenomena is real.
I have had no firsthand experiance, that I am aware of.
You have no proof, no firsthand experience, yet you believe this nightmarish scenario? Be honest with yourself, aren't you being paranoid?
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A CT based on no evidence does not have much of a future. It seems best to end this now.

Anyone can report this post to request that this thread be re-opened. Please provide a succinct but useful reason.
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I've reviewed the request to re-open this thread, and I agree that there is no argument, without evidence.
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I think they are an off world biological research facility.Now you can assail me with demands of proof.
I have none.
But I think the phenomena is real.
I have had no firsthand experiance, that I am aware of.
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So that is my CT and it is entirely by deduction of the stories.

It is an all or nothing scenario for me.
And I don't think it is nothing.
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