Why do we have ATM here?

[Jim]

Jerry, might I suggest a better way to handle this is to post,"That depends upon how broadly you define ATM" and not go into the idea/concept/theory?

[hhEb09'1]

Originally Posted by Michael Noonan

I have ideas but with the limits of what I do know it is difficult to propose ideas and to seek help from far more highly qualified professionals without appearing to be antagonistic.

The "usual" path is to extend the limits of what you know, that results in less antagonism. It's possible to do that while keeping the basic atm idea in the back of your head--in fact, that makes a nice roadmap for what to study next. Just choose the single strongest mainstream finding or statement that goes against your idea, and research the h*ck out of it, and see where its weak points are. There must be weak points, right, if your atm idea is valid? Finding, and describing, those weak areas can give you credence in the scientific community.

Originally Posted by Jerry

These 'possible' explanations have more in common with the ATM world than the mainstream: Composition and/or history that might provide the observed energy cannot be derived using generally accepted MS models.

I disagree that they have more in common. Explanations that make us change models are a far cry from those that make us change our principles.

[Jerry]

Originally Posted by hhEb09'1

Explanations that make us change models are a far cry from those that make us change our principles.

Interesting thought.

When Galileo was threatened with the rack, did he change his models, or his principles?

[Orestes]

Originally Posted by Jerry

Interesting thought.

When Galileo was threatened with the rack, did he change his models, or his principles?

Now, the Vicar of Bray was a man of principle. From here:

He was a Papist under the reign of Henry VIII, and a Protestant under Edward VI; he was a Papist again under Mary, and once more became a Protestant in the reign of Elizabeth. When this scandal to the gown was reproached for his versatility of religious creeds, and taxed for being a turncoat and an inconstant changeling...he replied, ‘Not so neither, for if I changed my religion, I am sure I kept true to my principle; which is, to live and die the Vicar of Bray.’

[Gillianren]

Originally Posted by Jerry

Interesting thought.

When Galileo was threatened with the rack, did he change his models, or his principles?

Possibly neither, if his principles didn't bother him about lying. Almost certainly, despite the rhetorical nature of your question, what he regretted was how he phrased the whole thing. I wonder how many ATM-types around here wish they'd been polite even without the threat of the rack in it.

[Peter Wilson]

How I wish I'd been more polite!