All I want to add is that a competent geologist can tell you anything you want to know about any hill or mound of a similar size if s/he spent two hours on it and came away with six core samples. Especially 17 meter deep samples.

None of those pictures speaks of anything other than 'natural formation'. I have been on many a construction site, on the level and on steep slopes, and I have seen all kinds of combinations of overburden (ground cover or topsoil) and rock in varying strata. When rock on a slope is eroded, it frequently erodes in a fashion that resembles steps; this is how rock naturally erodes and weathers. (As a matter of fact, I have never seen it erode or weather in any other way; but I can't use that to discount the possibility entirely.) The core samples taken by the geologists would have revealed whether or not any manmade layers were present, and as we never heard about anything like that, one can only assume that there was nothing to indicate any kind of human intervention. That is the type of find that can make a geologist's career -- the whole world would have known.

The fact that there are no 'real' scientists, universities, etc. involved in this speaks louder than any 'findings' that come from the site.

But...but...but...it was repeated about 100 times on this thread that it is a pyamid...doesn't that make it true? (snicker)

L8R

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There's so much I don't know about astrophysics. I wish I had read that book by that wheelchair guy.

Not sure I can add much to the discussion here but i spent the last weekend climbing the pyramid of the sun, and the pyramid of the moon. I have some photos to share which are at: www.geocities.com/arkayos/bospyrmd.html my comments on the weekend are at: www.geocities.com/arkayos/pyramid.html

I would appreciate any feedback.

Many Thanks

Nice article, certainly an addition to the thread!

It wouldn't bother me if there were indeed no pyramid there, what does bother me is that in the meantime the Roman/medieval archeology seems to get "investigated" on a totally wrong way.

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Thanks for the comment - And Semir apparently "is currently researching for his PhD, The Maya Civilisation, in Sarajevo."

I am geography challenged but "Maya" in Sarajevo? And I thought they were in the Americas...

Stone tiles revealed to be covering the Bosnian pyramid.
They are certainly man made.


see photo at: http://www.bosnianpyramid.com/index_files/News.html

Not very much contect given there, although the tile certainly appear to be manmade. Are they Roman?

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doesn't look like tiles to me

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Looks manmade to me, but as always manmade and pyriamid are not synonims.

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Looks like more of the same stuff as in the lower pictures, if they are tiles why are they all different widths? who would make tiles like that? seems to be a cracked up layer of sedimentary like in the other pics on the page.

just like this one

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After looking at the tiles on the pyramid of the moon in person last month, I could see how they could easily be thought to be man made - but I´m really not so sure (I really wish Semir would get a real geologist in there to do some examination. To my knowledge there is no geologist working on the project.)

The pyramid of the moon has a number of terraces, each ˝built˝ of tiles as shown in the picture Captain Swoop references (or my pictures at www.geocities.com/arkayos/bospyrmd.html ) but between each terrace seems to be a natural layer of clay. Is there a natural process which would lay down 1.5 - 2 meters of clay, then ˝bake˝ and crack the top layer and then repeat? Pyramid of the moon is on one side of a river valley. The top of the pyramid of the moon is flat, and is also tiled.

I´m going to add a postscript to my article. I did a driving tour of southern Bosnia, and the Croatian mountains toward Split, and Dubrovnik and I found many (dozens?) of mountains with very pyramidic (is that a word?) tops. If there were pyramid builders in Bosnia they were incredibly productive - or there is a natural process which creates pyramids...

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its called erosion and weathering look at the second picture on this link

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Carjea in Sarajevo is covered in very similar tiles which were laid prior to the Ottoman invasion - how much prior no one seemed to be able to say... Carjea

Vratnik Meajdan has a very similar terracing pattern to the pyramid of the moon. Just get in a taxi in Sarajevo, ask for Vratnik, and walk up to the fort guarding the eastern approach to Sarajevo. Stick to the path - most of the land mines are gone now, but they still find the occasional one (can you say BOOM?)

It has been said in other threads on this forum that forming an opinion based on a photograph is not a wise idea. But I guess it is easier to hide behind a keyboard and ˝(snicker)˝ . Sarajevo is easy to get to, and easy to see where the questions arise - this is not a cut and dried issue. Although I may not agree with Semir, I did have the courtesy to talk to him, and did actually look at the excavations.

As I said in my article - I do wish a major university would actually take the time and look at the site.

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but those tiles (well random paving) in that pic aren't the same as most of the ones claimed for the so called pyramid. and as for the two pics that u claim are showing rectangular 'tiles'. Why are they different widths? what tile manufacturer makes his tiles to random width? and who would lay tiles of random wifth and take the trouble to match up perfectly? they don't look like tiles to me at all I am afraid.

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Perhaps calling them paving stones is more accurate than calling them tiles. They don´t look manufactured, so much as quarried... and in person the paving stones at Carjea and at the pyramid of the moon look very similar. Again the photo effect distortion...

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When they are laid down, it is strange that the seams are continuous in both directions, even though they're quite random. Can you say "cracked surface"?

I Don't know for sure of course, I'm just looking at a pic from behind my keyboard .

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i think it's a cracked surface as well, all the other pictures from the so called pyramid look the same

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I've read an interesting article on http://www.bosnian-pyramid.net
about the corners of the pyramid. It would be an easy way to proof
quickly the existence, but they dig near the corners but not the
corners. Then they've dug something on the top of it, but not the
top!? I've seen some pictures on that really let me think again about
this whole thing. Every day I believe less in this mystery.

A pyramid is a fairly natural shape. The slope is the most stable form for a rising object. Look at a pile of sand or gravel. Pour it from above and watch the natural slope as the grains fall to the lowest potential. Weathering can create a similar effect on mounds, hills, etc. Even 4 sides can be caused by weather patterns. Suppose the region gets seasonal winds flowing from different directions. Those will selectively shape the terrain.

Gosh, this looks familiar!

Oh, yeah... Bosnian Pyramid

(I have to admit that a local Houston TV station did a program on "Houston's Indiana Jones" a week or two ago. I saw the listing but didn't watch it; however, I caught the last couple of minutes.

It was about Osmanagic. )

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