This is all very fishy. We have the Bosnian government trying to make some money, and we have a group of newagers that are searching for some evidence of the lost civilization of Atlantis.

The Edgar Cayce Foundation and other believers in the Atlantis Myth have been on a mission to prove that Atlantis did in fact exist for many years now. A few years ago, there was some noise being made about some evidence that the Sphinx was actually around 10,000 years old. The "experts" making those claims, said that because of the evidence of water errosion at the Sphinx site, it proved that an older civilization had actually built it. This older civilization then tranfered their knowledge to the Egyptians. The older civilization was never named.

Now we have a newly discovered pyramid. And surprise, surprise, it also happens to be 12,000 years old. A lot of noise being made again, same as before. Like before, real scientists are not buying it.

When will these believers in the Atlantis Myth throw in the towel? These people remind me of the Intelligent Design/creationist crowd; They have nothing that can be proved, but they always keep trying to muddy the waters.

Well, the mysterious Berekat has now been transformed into this:
Well, if he is the leading expert, then how can we doubt his claims?

But allow me to again voice my doubts that "the leading Egyptian pyramid expert" can be a person who yields no Google hits at all (when looking for Berekat pyramid) except for those about his visit to Bosnia... No publications, no references, no interviews, ...

Either his name is not Berekat but something similar, or he is not the Leading Egyptian pyramid expert. There seems to be a Dr. Ali Barakat from Egypt's Geological Survey Authority
I can find a Drs. Gabor Barakat (from the University of Cairo) on this page about the Sphinx being Neolithic (about 10,000 years old). If (and it's a big if) this is the same Barakat, then it is not a mark in his favor.

There is also an A.A.Barakat who is co-author (31 page pdf) of "Meteoritic element within sandstone from the Lybian glass area Southwestern Egypt", whatever that may be.
I'll look further later on.

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all real scientists who visited this place believe that this is a real pyramid

those scientists who critisize this , have not visited this place , they critisize this from their offices if you believe them , fine , just fine



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nobdoy said that bosnian pyramids are atlantis, osmangich never said that


but but but

i think this pyramids might be atlantis , maybe

Black Mamba, can you give the exact name of that Egyptian scientist?

If we are not sure about all letters, we might end up with Burt Bacharach and we wouldn't want that, now would we

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Well, then...when they present convincing evidence, they will be taken seriously. Unfortunately, they way they are "going about this" does NOT fill me with confidence..

Have you read just why there is criticism of this "pyramid"?

He has a "track record" of wacky ideas, which is something that simply can not be ignored. It's not our fault that Sam brings "baggage" to this "investigation".

I thought that was "located" in the Bermuda Triangle.

Yes, that's what I figured. Yet another useless search for proof of Atlantis.

Talk to the Cayce folks, they can tell you much about Atlantis; power crystals, Atlantian death rays, Atlantian spaceships, Atlantian genetic experiments, and let's not forget - advanced pyramid construction technology. It's all there.

Anyway, I hope some good will come from digging in the area. You guys might just stumble upon some real ancient artifacts that have nothing to do with Atlantis. I just hope that nothing important is accidentally destroyed in the process.

I can bosnian and he doesn't say it. Oh, and he's a geologist, not an archaeologist.
I bet you didn't know Hitler survived and moved to the South Pole? Well, Sam's got news for you!
Also, the aliens are experimenting on humans in Dulce (somewhere in USA)
And why are the aliens here?

dont lie here , he said it look man . look


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international media

MSNBC, Reuters

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12837694/from/RSS/
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First article, source not listed (undoubtedly from one of Sam's sites)

Translation: There is definitely a pyramid over Visoko, we only have to establish how it was constructed, Ali Abdulah Berekat, phd (geology) and one of the leading egyptian experts in pyramids said yesterday.

MSNBC article:
Now as far as I can tell, this man has not met one single person familiar with the archaeological or geological history of the area and was given a tour with a volunteer as a translator, so I can understand his susceptability to suggestions (by various "experts") that it might be a "pyramid". But even so, he's very far from coming out with a "confirmation".

The mod will probably be interested in this bit as well:
Translation: Now spit in your face and pull your hair, hahahaha

While I sympathize with your frustration in trying to explain the scientific study of real pyramids, your method of ad hominem is not persuasive to anyone. Attack the incorrect ideas with good facts and logic. Don't label as idiotic or brainless the supporter of incorrect ideas.

(See Rules for posting to this board, Number 2: Civility and decorum.)

Thanks.

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Sorry, I stooped to his level (see translation above). It's edited out now. BTW, I was targeting his selective perception and lack of common sense rather than his ideas. As for frustration, imagine living in a country where such things are allowed to happen.

The aliens don't want our land, gold, minerals or water. Not even human or animal life. What they want is the magnetic force running through and around planet Earth. The aliens use this force in magical ways unknown to us.

Like, bending spoons.

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I always knew Geller had to be one of THEM!

Et voila!! No glue people! Do you feel glue ma'am? No? No glue! It's magic I tell you!

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The more I look at it, the less I trust the judgment of Dr. Ali Barakat. It turns out that he has also already "found" the lost army of Cambyses in Egypt, so it looks to me that he is more interested in spectacle than in science. Apparently, a show about this has been made by ABC from Australia.
The only publications I can find are a few geological ones (about impact craters in Libya), so I doubt many people would consider him the leading Egyptian pyramid expert...
Next!

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Me thinks you hit on the entire problem. This might all be a case of "Lost in the translation".

Since there is a language disparity, the "experts" are not correctly understood. So now you have a group that wants to believe it's man-made, so they are going to interpret it from thier own understanding. Naturally; they are going to hear the word "pyramid" when instead it might have been said as "pyramid like".

What we need here is untranslated sources of information or "evidence" from experts outside the country.

Wait a second, I remember somebody who "discovered" almost everything. He found proof of wood of the Ark in Turkey (that spot is well known), he also found blood of Christ, the Holy Grail...he isn't one of the actors here right? Tell me I am mixing people up.

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No, that was some 11th or 12th century adventurer, one of the followers of Godfried of Bouillon

I have no idea who you mean, but these were all the references I could find for Aly Barakat (and the one referenced in the prehistoric Sphinx story is probably another Barakat, as the name is not that rare). It doesn't look like this one is such a (well-known) quack, but he is not the expert the Bosnian Pyramid defenders want him to be.

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