Our rules don't allow you to hit someone with anything other than your weapon, which is built to very close specifications. Ergo, for SCA fighters, it's irrelevant. (It may not be historically accurate, but the insurance company prefers it.)

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"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

Yeah, this was on the front end of a mostly deserted grocery store. No rules really. I also thing that if I would have whipped it, it could have done some petty serious damage. It was about 9 feet of rope, doubled over with knots tied every 4 to 5 inches. It made a good substitute for a steel chain whip. I had one end in each hand and would have never really whipped at him with it. I do undestand how tempers can change and the need for strit safety rules there though.

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A Geek will think he can use that to pick up a girl in a bar.
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She might. You never know.

Are you allowed to attack weapons or shields with other that your weapons, eg. kicking or body slamming the shield?
I've seen a few examples of SCA developed combat styles that would seem very vulnerable to such attacks.

I would also expect flail style weapons to be entierly forbidden for SCA fights.

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The guy we had at the store sad that some attacks with natural weapons were legal, like body checks, but that punching and kicking were not. This was of course for his group which may or may not be the norm. Also, I built a flail similar to that. It was three strands of weed eater line with a golf ball on the end, all braided together. and wrapped in tape. Something similar might be legal if it were made with tennis balls and the cord was not excessively long.

Side note: When making a flail type weapon make sure you either know how to use it, or that the cord it too short to let the striking mass reach your hand. (I had to take about 7 inches out of mine )

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A Geek will think he can use that to pick up a girl in a bar.
A Dork knows he can't pick up the girl with it, but will hang around for hours anyway, just in case she asks.
She might. You never know.

In an attempt to get back on topic : does getting beaten up or being murdered make people wee? We've all heard the expression "to <explitive removed> myself" meaning to be so scared as to lose control of their bodily functions - but how often and how easily does this happen to humans?

clop

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When my girlfriend saw the movie Ghostbusters, she wet the seat when the ghostly librarian attacked. I might too, if she were to ever read this..

For a very short time, MTV ran a reality show called Fear. The first couple of seasons were pretty good. They would place a groom of 20 somethings in a place like an abandoned prison and provide them with tools to investigate the hauntings. People were free to refuse a mission and go home, or stick it out for a share of something like $10,000. It may have been much less. There were a lot of people that got too freaked out and left, but I don't remeber any that actually had an incident of this type. That includes the one at the end where everyone refused and just left.

Most bodies, human or other, will have an evacuation after death, as there is no way to stop it. It may take a wile to actually happen, but my understanding is that most dead bodies do soil themselves.

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A Geek will think he can use that to pick up a girl in a bar.
A Dork knows he can't pick up the girl with it, but will hang around for hours anyway, just in case she asks.
She might. You never know.

I think this is part of the fight or flight reaction. IIRC when you are threatened and you are preparing to flee, evacuating your bladder and bowels will be of benefit. Can't quite remember why - reducing weight maybe? Certainly would deter your opponent from a close pursuit

I know that hard exertion tends to shut down the bladder and bowels (to some extent - running can also encourage the bowels too when they are over-full to start with).

Glad to get back on topic. Rather weird seeing a thread on weeing transmute into a discussion on Ren Faires and medieval weaponry...

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Its a reaction to the adrenilin. Happens to most vertibrates if you scare them bad enough. The benefit is "lightening the load" so you can run like hell when you have to. Your DNA doesn't care if its embarrassing. It considers being dead more so.

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When I was taking my EMT training, the doctor who taught the course actually recommended that you empty your bladder in a car accident. The deceleration damage to a full bladder is much worse than on an empty one and if the bladder ruptures you will dump all that urine in your abdomen.

"Nice" idea, though I suspect it won't be the first thing on my mind as the accident is happening.

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Fortunately, urine's normally sterile, so it wouldn't do much harm in your abdominal cavity. The burst bladder is probably by far the bigger worry.
(The sterility of urine can come in handy: if you're lost in the jungle, you're better off washing a wound in fresh urine than using any of the water you might find.)

Grant Hutchison

Plus in Mr. Hutchison's hypothetical jungle situation if its from a different person than the wounded individual it will cause rapid blood clotting due to sero-type reaction.

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Hmmm, not sure about that one ... If you have normal kidneys, you don't pass much protein in your urine, so I can't see what would cause such a reaction.
Edit: Might be other stuff in urine that favours clotting, I don't know. I just suspect blood-group proteins don't appear in your urine unless your kidneys are bleeding or leaking protein: otherwise we'd be able to check your blood group from a urine sample.

Grant Hutchison

Never tried it myself, Mr Hutchison, just something I've heard since my youth. I know where that can get you around here.

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I don't think you would have time would you? I don't know anyone who can empty their bladder in less than a second. Maybe it would be worth spending some time doing spontaneous rapid urination training. See how quickly you can go from full to empty on command.

Does this work with the stomach too? Is it good to vomit in the moments leading up to an accident? (Assuming you've no way of avoiding the collision - there would be no point in obstructing your view with a sick soiled windscreen if there were still a chance of swerving successfully).

This thread reminds me of a study I once read about, where students were offered money to urinate in their clothes. And a huge percentage of them couldn't physically do it. Interesting.

clop

I think he was only half (or less) serious, and yes, the damage was from the burst bladder not the urine. Maybe the point was we should listen to mom and remember to go to the potty before we get in the car for a long trip.

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