What makes Chimpanzees so strong? - Page 2

Nicolas · #31 (**permalink**) 04-October-2006, 12:08 PM

If I too had 5 individual sets of razor sharp pins, a cat would think twice before attacking me

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MarkVee · #32 (**permalink**) 05-July-2008, 05:11 PM

They probably are much stronger, people are designed to use tools, not pull massive weights, but chimps have to pull their body weight up trees all the time. Though peoples legs are stronger than their arms

BigDon · #33 (**permalink**) 06-July-2008, 08:25 AM

I knew it would be a myosin thing. Been reading up on bully whippets so I took a crash course. And Ron, much more hand waving and you're going to take flight.

Ron, why do you doubt the citation from Nature?

Ronald Brak · #34 (**permalink**) 06-July-2008, 09:46 AM

Chimp joints are more efficient than our joints, but in this thread I was thinking of muscle efficiency, that is a kilo of chimp muscle compared to a kilo of human muscle.

And its not that I doubt the thing from Nature, I just wonder what it means.

Doodler · #35 (**permalink**) 06-July-2008, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by publius

To those who are skeptical that chimpanzees are much stronger than we are, I dare you to go in the ring with one.

Even a relative 90lb weakling female. She will kick your hind end and mop up the floor with you. It's no contest. In fact, she could kill you with her bare hands in a second if she wanted to.

She would make short work of a Mike Tyson or whoever is the current champion. In a bar-room brawl, you'd see her literally throwing people, including the toughest bouncers out of the windows, just like in the movies.

Chimps vs humans is absolutely no contest, as any zoo officials will confirm.

-Richard

I wonder how much that has to do with the fact that zoo officials aren't actually trying to hurt the animals, where the animals have no such compunctions? Put someone in the cage with no regard for the animal's survival and see what happens.

BigDon · #36 (**permalink**) 06-July-2008, 12:36 PM

This is a good read.

It's about a mutation in the muscling in dogs that research has shown applies to other animals including hominids. http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/...l.pgen.0030079

Here is a picture of a dog with a specific mutation that doubles her muscle fibers.

BigDon · #37 (**permalink**) 06-July-2008, 12:42 PM

You may be thinking of an individual muscle cell. It would be more helpful, I believe, if you thought of the individual cells as pistons in an engine as opposed to engines themselves, in that there is a staggering number of ways to design a piston engine, but only a couple will see you through an Indy race.

Ronald Brak · #38 (**permalink**) 07-July-2008, 01:54 AM

Would I say a chimpanzee is stronger than me? Yes. Would I say their joints are more efficient than mine? Yes. Would I say their muscles are more efficient than mine? No, because to me that means how efficient they are at converting energy into work and I'm a slow twitch sort of a guy. Can I beat a chimp in the 800 meters? Yes. Can the average chimp pull my arms out of their sockets? Yes.

Ronald Brak · #39 (**permalink**) 07-July-2008, 03:28 AM

Can I pull a chimp's arm out of its socket? If I had a dart gun loaded with ketamine, yes.

BigDon · #40 (**permalink**) 07-July-2008, 06:01 AM

Ron, I've worked myself to the point I've lifted 1.6 times my own weight over my head. I've bench pressed 400 pounds 35 times in a row. I've been so solid doctors didn't believe I wasn't "cheating" and checked anyway. Came back and apologized.

We're still friends, but I'm going to disagree with you.

Ronald Brak · #41 (**permalink**) 07-July-2008, 06:07 AM

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We're still friends, but I'm going to disagree with you.

Are we diagreeing on the pulling an unconscious chimpanzee's arm from it's socket? That was just a humorous aside. I couldn't do it without using a lever. Or indeed developing a severe psychosis first.

BigDon · #42 (**permalink**) 07-July-2008, 06:19 AM

Oh Jeez no! I'm a live and let live kind of guy. Unless I'm going to eat something. That's different. If I'm fishing and you are a bass, carp, crappie or bluegill I'll unhook you with apologies and let you go back to you freinds with a story of abduction. If you are a catfish or a trout, well...folks back east will go, "Why don't he write?"

(Sorry, I'm drinking tonight. Fairly looped too.)

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