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This is a dramatic example of a case where an absorptive medium can transmit waves with a group velocity exceeding c. In such a medium, the complex refractive index has a non-zero imaginary component.
It's the pulse shape that goes faster than the speed of light, although it still can't actually be used to transmit information. You can read more about it under group velocity at Wikipedia. Cheers -- Sylas |
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I'll just stick to basics. No particle has ever been observed traveling faster than light in the (neutrino sea/ vacuum), none, nada, nix, nope, and ain't gonna happen if you intend on keeping SR, Hendrik Von, and Albert happy, either...not to mention Ken G, Tim T., Grey, Celestial Mechanic, Antoniseb, SpacemanSpiff,...and a host of others. pete
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Sylas, you are right of course! The give away passage......... Quote:
As I have also forgotten more than half of it since I learnt it, I will go and study the wikip. article.............thanks! |
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the wikip. article seems to be a little faulty
first group velocity is defined as the speed of the wave (group) envelope from that what follows you can infer, that a medium which is apt to yield a greater than c group velocity would neccesserily alter the shape of this envelope and by that very fact invalidating the worthiness of the definition of group velocity as given at the outset. |
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![]() To answer semi-seriously, though, obviously if superluminal movement is possible, it can't really result in serious problems for causality, or we'd see those effects already. It would certainly mean a serious revision (or maybe even a complete scrapping) of relativity, but I'm sure that some bright person would sort it all out and figure out why the universe hasn't vanished in a puff of acausality and illogic.
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Grey, i seem to have reached the sclerotic age, were i would be unable to let go of the strict "the Lorenz Transformations are Fundamental" axiom (hardwired in my axons)!
There were bytheby better takes at offsetting the c-vac.=const. law. One group claimed (claimes?) to having proven that the tunnelling of photons "didn't take time" ((some sort of smile))............I don't know, how they haved fared since then with that..........anyway! It would at least look to me more promissing to seek small deviations from the pure law in the quantum realm, than to go on the lookout for something as outlandish as a warp scale correction of "c=c" Last edited by satori; 14-March-2007 at 11:49 AM. Reason: typo correct. |
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hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
(i did smile allready today (see post above), but that one saves my day, Sam5! (at 2332 lokal time.............. just in time)) Last edited by satori; 14-March-2007 at 11:50 AM. Reason: typo correct. |
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