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Old 10-May-2007, 03:42 PM
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Bee Counts:

I'm stopping my bee counting experiment as a swarm of around 20,000 bees has been roaming around south salem looking for a nesting location. (There is an article in the statesmen journal newpaper about it last week)

However overall, there still seems to be more bumblebees doing the polinating then honey bees. I suspect once that superswarm settles someplace the honeybees will resume thier harvesting.

Anyone have any idea's why honey bee's would form such a large swarm? my Understanding is a average nest usually only has around 2000 bee's, so it's about 10 nests worth of them
1500 to 30,000 is typical of bee swarms.: http://entomology.unl.edu/beekpg/beeswarm.htm

And two additional links with information on CCD: http://www.entm.purdue.edu/Entomolog...h/bee/ccd.html
and the "disappearing disease": http://www.orsba.org/htdocs/download/Dtew.htm

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Old 10-May-2007, 06:23 PM
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As soon as one of father in law's 3 hives swarms, youngest son & I become beekeepers.
Cade is more interested than me but I feel the need to do something about this problem.

Perhaps more of us should get involved?
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Old 11-May-2007, 05:29 AM
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Fortunately, the honey bee was selected for genome mapping earlier, which may prove invaluable in solving the current problem:
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...The honey bee genome is about one-tenth the size of the human genome, containing about 300 million DNA base pairs. Though physically vastly different from humans, "honey bees live in societies that rival our own in complexity, internal cohesion, and success in dealing with the myriad challenges posed by social life, including those related to communication, aging, social dysfunction and infectious disease," the researchers explain... ENS
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Not that I trust television to much, but just as an additional bit of information, there was a segment on Japanese TV this morning saying that the same phenomenon has been observed in Kyoto as well. And what it said was that normally bees gravitate toward yellow lights, but that the honeybees were attracted to the green lights. I don't know if this has any significance at all, but it's an observation nevertheless.
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Old 17-May-2007, 07:58 PM
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Bee-keepers need to replace the yellow lights on their hives with green ones?
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Bee-keepers need to replace the yellow lights on their hives with green ones?
Well perhaps, but the point really is, why do the honeybees go for green lights? They're not supposed to, apparently.
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Maybe some secret government organization is abducting the bees and preparing to use them to spread an alien lifeform by pollinating corn crops?


Perhaps not. ^_~
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Their not disappearing, they are just getting sneaky, and hiding so they can pounce...
bees force evacuation of fundraiser
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A local beekeeper, Matt Green, used a smoke machine to calm the bees...
I wonder, what kind of smoke calms bees?
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I wonder, what kind of smoke calms bees?
Ooh, yeah! all right!
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I wanna jam it wid you.
Were jammin, jammin,
And I hope you like jammin, too.

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Jammin till the jam is through.

Were jammin -
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Old 23-May-2007, 09:58 PM
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All I know is, cigar smoke doesn't calm bees...

...and there's no disappearing bee reports coming from Jamaica or Amersterdam
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Er, yeah, that was the joke.

Gives new meaning to the term "honeypot".
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They were just on vacation in sunny Portugal:

http://www.cbc.ca/cp/Oddities/070526/K052606AU.html
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Old 16-July-2007, 07:38 PM
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An interesting article, but maybe a little too far the opposite direction from "it is the end of the world". I personally think something troubling is still going on.

The June 18, 2007 issue of Chemical & Engineering News (a publication not known for sensationalism, but unfortunately only available to subscribers), had an interesting article about colony collapse. To date, researchers have only identified things that are not the cause.

Just last week, the USDA released an action plan.

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"There were enough honey bees to provide pollination for U.S. agriculture this year, but beekeepers could face a serious problem next year and beyond," Buchanan said. "This action plan provides a coordinated framework to ensure that all of the research that needs to be done is covered in order to get to the bottom of the CCD problem."

The action plan coordinates the federal strategy in response to CCD. It addresses four main components: (1) survey and data collection needs; (2) analysis of samples to determine the prevalence of various pests and pathogens, exposure to pesticides, or other unusual factors; (3) controlled experiments to carefully analyze the potential causes of CCD; and (4) developing new methods to improve the general health of bees to reduce their susceptibility to CCD and other disorders.

Four possible causes for CCD are identified in the plan: (1) new or reemerging pathogens, (2) new bee pests or parasites, (3) environmental and/or nutritional stress, or (4) pesticides. Research will focus on determining which of these factors are contributing causes of CCD, either individually or in combination.
My own observations around my yard and around Ohio are that numbers of both honeybees and bumblebees are down a lot. Last year, when our garden was in bloom, the place was crawling with bees, this year, hardly a one. Our moderate drought might be part of it, but IMHO, doesn't completely explain the noticable drop.
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I live in the Pacific Northwest where we have lots of trees. Last week a swarm of wild honeybees settled down for the night in a tree in our back yard. They formed a ball about 18" in diameter and spent the night. Late the next morning they took off in search of a new home. They may find it very difficult to find a suitable home as most of the hollow snags and hollow cedars have been removed for safety. Maybe some organization should start establishing homes for wild honeybees like they do for woodducks.
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This theory has been offered. Hope it's correct as to cause and ease of remedy.

Asian Parasite Killing Western Bees - Scientist By by Julia Hayley

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MADRID - A parasite common in Asian bees has spread to Europe and the Americas and is behind the mass disappearance of honeybees in many countries, says a Spanish scientist who has been studying the phenomenon for years.
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Treatment for nosema ceranae is effective and cheap -- 1 euro (US$1.4) a hive twice a year -- but beekeepers first have to be convinced the parasite is the problem.

Another theory points a finger at mobile phone aerials, but Higes notes bees use the angle of the sun to navigate and not electromagnetic frequencies.

Other elements, such as drought or misapplied treatments, may play a part in lowering bees' resistance, but Higes is convinced the Asian parasite is the chief assassin.
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Old 19-July-2007, 09:19 PM
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Very interesting ggchuck, I hope it is that simple.
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