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I'm not a genius im only an engineer.
But why not build a car using nuclear decay to power a generator which powers an electric motor to drive the car Many people have suggested plutonium 238 not sutable for clean bombs but great for a dirty bomb . how about strontium 90 never been assosiated with weapons has a halflife 32 years (most people do keep cars that long) and can reach a temp of 800 celcius and its called a waste product which they just end up storing in underground vaults. Its is a beta decay which requires more sheilding than alpha decay so why not put the pellets in a sythetic diamond case to sheild the radiation before it even reaches the liquid but not insulate the heat (because diamond is the best know conductor of heat) the strontium will heat liquid helium to the critical point 176 celcius. the steam turns a turbine and generates electricity the helium then passes through a thermal electric cooler making it easily compressable equiring less energy the helium is then recommpressed into a tank to a pressure of 5000psi then strontium in the tank reboils the liquid helium. people have suggesteed solar powered cars and puting turbines to charge a battery but how about using solar to only power the 10 hp compressor and a dozen mini tubine to power the thermal electric cooler. so this would be a closed circuit the helium never leaves lasts minimum of 20 years also this type of rtg would be more efficent compared to regular rtg which convert heat dirrectly to electricity Last edited by ace holmes : 04-April-2008 at 09:17 PM. |
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In my opinion, total madness to put that radioactive hazmat in the hands of the general public. It would make more sense to have nuclear power in secure plants and use the power to refine hydrogen for use as motor fuel.
I will leave it to qualified engineers to evaluate your idea for the diamond shielding and the engine. |
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plus strontium is only dangerous if eaten and synthetic diamond is only 60 per ct. costing only $600.00 to make the rod casing
compared to pu238 which is themost dangerous poisonous substance on earth Last edited by ace holmes : 04-April-2008 at 09:21 PM. |
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Did you say it's a by product? From what? |
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in 1990 it cost $5.00 an oz.
in 2004 it cost $20.00 a gram a byproduct of nuclear fall out and fission also found in minerals celestine and strontianite naturaly. compared to pu238 which was $300.00 per gram in 2000 and now in 08 it cost $2000 + per gram |
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If we were to rely more on nuclear power plants- you are saying strontium would be a by product? How much would actually be produced? |
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Diet soda, red M&M's, bacon and nuclear cars cause cancer. Watch the special tonight on FOX News! Last edited by Neverfly : 04-April-2008 at 09:36 PM. Reason: Corrected spelling of Cancer. |
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A compressor fills one of three 9 liter tanks to a pressure of 5000 the helium is then boiled to 8000 psi and the tanks are carbon fiber so if your in an accident the tank splints open not explode the only danger in this is that it will produce a high speed draft and no two year old is going to eat something thats so hot its glowing not as dangerous if inhailed unlike lead and mercury and it cant bleed through your skin its solid at room temp Last edited by ace holmes : 05-April-2008 at 09:30 AM. |
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Neilzero posted below me mentioning an alternative use for such a vehicle.
Of course, My Mind goes, "ROVER!" Simply put, We can complain pretty harshly about petroleum products. We are just so used to using them. But they are going to run out someday. We use petroleum to make all manner of plastics too. I wonder what the stock for Dow Corning will do then? ![]() Last edited by Neverfly : 05-April-2008 at 04:28 AM. |
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If I recall correctly 90 pounds of Pu238 are needed to produce 10 kilowatts in a RTG = radioactive thermonic generator. Strontium 90 would likely be used if it produced more power. A steam turbine powered by the same heat might apply 50 kw to the wheels of a typical SUV, which may be enough to give acceptable performance. I can't imagine 90 pounds of either metal in a car, especially at the prices suggested in this thread. Likely much of the cost is refining from high level nuclear waste. Perhaps the high level nuclear waste can power the car, without the cost of processing the waste. The main problem would be neutrons and gamma radiation which would be difficult to shield properly. This system may have application for unmanned vehicles which don't need shielding. Vehicle repairs would have to be done by waldo or robot. Neil
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