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Old 31-May-2008, 01:51 PM
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One of the problems I see is the limitations of the size of sail-driven ships and the mass of their cargo. Engine driven ships can grow to an arbitrary size with a large enough engine. Sail-driven ships are dependent on an area cross section of the sail (L^2), whereas their resistance scales with mass (L^3). They are also limited by the size of the sail beams you can build to hold all that force. Eventually you'd reach a point where your ship was all mast and no hull/cargo.

With steel, we may be able to build larger ships than in the age of sail, but would they be as large as modern cargo ships and oil haulers? (hundreds of meters long, hundreds of thousands of tons in weight?) My intuition says no. (Of course it could be wrong. I'd have to do some calculations).

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The Falls of Clyde is the oldest surviving American tanker and the world's only surviving sail-driven oil tanker.[4]
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General characteristics
Displacement: 1809 tons
Length: 280 ft (85.3 m)
Beam: 40 ft (12.2 m)
Draft: 21 ft (6.4 m)
This is microscopic compared to the ships moving modern quantities of goods.
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Actually, resistance (or drag) does scale with length^2 (think either cross section or surface in contact with water), while tonnage scales with length^3, which is exactly the reason why ships grow so big, they use less fuel per ton-mile.
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In theory you can run a boiler on crude, you would have fun getting it to atomize, I would imagine you would have to do a fair bit of preheating (even standard bunker oil needs preheating) and modify the burners. And I would think that soot in the boiler would be a problem.
Even using bunker oil the boilers have to be cleaned regurlaly by blowing high pressure steam through them to force trhe soot up and out o fthe funnel.
Some varieties of crude oil contain enough light fractions to be as thin and free flowing as kerosene. That may be what the Japanese were using as fuel late in the war, after American bombers had busted up their refineries.
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And then there is these high sulfur crudes that look like something you would squeeze out of a grease gun. Not something I would want in an engine.
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With parachute sails--one might harness winds which do blow faster at higher levels.
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