This is my first post here and I do so with some trepidation. Im probaly even in the wrong topic.

Im a regular on other forums un-science related, and must admit to have been lurking here for a good while.

My first post should be decent and have something to talk about, but the longer I read the good members posts I slowly have realised I probably dont belong here.

Im just not smart enough.

Im not dumb, I was an average student; better at english than maths and was a little naughty from time to time. Like most of us.

I enjoy immensley reading about new things. New ways of thinking. Ideas that seem so far out but yet so logical. I cant get my head around big numbers and strange algorithms, the itricacies of design and theory.

I never wanted to post for fear of getting banned. I havent read the 'how not to get banned' and I dont want to. Im used to forums that ban people for person abuse and stuff like that, not for failing to back up your claims/ going against the grain.

I have no background in science but I love to read about new developments. I waited nail bitingly for the nasa announcement a few weeks ago but it was something about supernovas or radiation I didnt understand.

I found the expanding earth theory positivley compelling and something that to someone with no experience in the field makes absolutle sense (arent planets formed this way anyway?). I like the aquatic ape theory because no one has a better one, but all this brings me to the point of my first post.

If I can think these things make sense but the scientific community laughs at them with no equal explanations...what do you do? If religeon can blindly believe in itself and rational men can put no more history behind us than a few thousand years, do we blindly believe science men who themselves so often hold onto their theories that to question would undo their lifes work? So far as their reputations remain intact?

Is it not the nature of science to continually question?

First, welcome to BAUT. I hope you can be convinced that we do continually question.

Science does have equal explanations, more equal in fact The untidy nits that the mainstream suffers from pale in comparison to the howlers invoked in the other theories. For instance, in the expanding earth theories, they are not suggesting an expanding earth in the way that you are thinking of them ("planets formed this way"), it is not an accumulation of exterior matter. That's what makes the claims that much more fantastic, and interesting, and requiring more justification than your ordinary theory.

Good luck

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Don't sell yourself short with put downs such as "I'm just not smart enough." BAUT membership includes people with a wide variety of backgrounds and levels of scientific knowledge. There is no such thing as "not being smart enough." Your curiosity and interest in new developments are what motivated you to come here and show a genuine desire to learn. If you're worried about getting banned, try phrasing the issue you are addressing as a question rather than as a definitive statement, and if you cannot back something up, just admit it rather than make something up.

I'm a writer, not a scientist, and I've enjoyed both contributing to conversations on topics of personal interest and learning about subjects of which I previously knew literally nothing.

Relax and enjoy, and welcome to BAUT!

I also can't fathom big numbers, or especially anything with a "sigma" in it. But honestly, I don't you need to worry about being banned just for having heretical thoughts. I have lots of heretical ideas, and have never even been warned by a moderator for anything. I think it's just the way you say things. I have never seen any problem with any idea, no matter how heretical, if you ask it politely, is it possible that... If you start out by saying, "you're all wrong and I know the truth," then that's where you get into trouble, I think.

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Welcome to the forum.

I agree that that latest Big Announcement by NASA was rather technical. But I thought the Phoenix landing was pretty exciting. Did you hear about it?

I would advise you to read the forum rules carefully, though. I think you only risk a banning for unsupported assertions in two of the forums: Against the Mainstream, and Questions and Answers. I hope you'll stick around "in the flesh", so to speak.

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Hi there McBain... Welcome to BAUT.

It's a nice place but it's made up of people. Like all people, nations or groups, there are 10% you would kill to be with, 10% you would just kill, & 80% who range in between.

To put it another way, some are knowledgeable & open to new input - but you need to make the case, some are unable to conceive of anything that doesn't fit with what they learned in school no matter how you make your case, & most are in between.

Any community who laughs at evidence without providing an alternative should be ignored. If you find things out there that don't seem to get a reasonable response from the science community, remember, that doesn't make the ideas wrong, it just means they don't fit within the limited definition of Science.

For example, the whole God question tends to get a reaction here - that doesn't mean there isn't a God, it just means Science is limited in what it can deal with & the God question doesn't fit in those limits. In fact, from reading around here, Consciousness doesn't seem to fit within those limits either - such subjects get a risible reaction.

Mostly here they will provide links to show an alternative to what you put forward. The advice about asking questions is very good. If you propose something as a theory (in the science sense) then you need to be prepared to do the work to back it up.

if you ask a question & get given links to check out, it pays to go read them - you will see around the forums those who haven't & who promptly ask more questions that show they haven't read the references.

If you feel offended at any point, click the 'Report Post' button in the top right corner & let a Mod deal with it. Like most communities, there are those who will provoke just to get a reaction & when you react, they report you. Don't give them the satisfaction.

Now that may all sound ominous but it isn't - it's meant to help you find a place without needing to worry about banning.

All the best & see you around the forums...

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Don't worry about it, I'm about average or slightly above average intelligence myself and don't understand a lot of the stuff.

You wont get banned, this site is for everyone.

Is that correct? I thought it was for ATM & Conspiracy Theories.

I avoid making assertions in either.

It looks like I misremebered. In Q&A, you are not allowed to promote ATM theories, and you risk getting banned if you persist on doing it. And in fact, this applies to any forum besides ATM and CT. From the forum's rules:

I think the moderators are especially harsh on violations of this rule that take place on the Q&A section because many threads there are questions made by one-time posters who are less likely to check the credibility of the replies they get.

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"A witty saying proves nothing." Voltaire

Most of the rules boil down to "Be Nice"! Follow that and there is little likelihood that you'll get in trouble.

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I should jolly well hope so! Otherwise, BAUT might as well be Wikipedia!

I'm sorry to say it mcbain but you're a whinger. There is no such thing as "not smart enough". The general population shows a wide range of intelligence. There are posts on BAUT that I can't even begin to understand, but that doesn't dampen my spirits. It sounds like you have a huge chip on your shoulder. Are you trying to evoke pity? Or have you singularly failed to grasp the point of the site? You can express the wackiest ideas known to mankind as long as you can argue your point. I think you're letting yourself down. Copernicus and Tycho are turning in their graves.

clop

You´re McBain, not McFly.

Seriously, there´s a lot of romance behind the 'genius' idea. Most of the folks people use to call 'genius' have had one single great idea in their whole life, often with a great deal of effort.

So welcome and enjoy the fun of it.

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haha just an ice-breaker Clop!

Ive read lots of arguments here and Im well aware arguing the point isnt enough. You have to show proof of anything unsubstatiated and I havent posted so far as not to delve into topics I dont completley understand and making myself look like, well look like a clod, Clop!

Thank you for the welcome and Ill do my best to contribute something, even if it may be a 'please explain' or something to lighten an otherwise sciency thread!

Classic!

Please read the rules. It's the only sensible starting place. "But I didn't know it was against them" is not a defense for violating them.

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"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"

"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

Most of the rules boil down to elaborations of "Be Nice"! If everybody followed that simple rule, most of the rest would be unnecessary.

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Any reaction is mainly due to Rule 12. Check it out.

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