Strangely the dark spot is located exactly where a gondola should be.

That is no big deal using a manufactured toy object.
I have asked that you make a hand made model even grossely done
of the object in the picture i show.Because you pretend it is so easy to fake it.
http://www.ufoevidence.org/Photographs/Photo328.htm
http://www.ufoevidence.org/Photographs/Photo326.htm

No I didn't. You just failed to reply to my questions from page 12 and 13:

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Page 13
Look at the lighting. The pics are taken from completely different directions. You can't say that it shares the same dark area as the trees and is close to them, when it's simply the direction of the sunlight that matters when looking at how much of the object is lighted.

Rioux, you never answered my question either. Do you think that a hot air balloon could make a crop circle?

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Yes and that is because the object as moving changing his position.

So you can fake it or not?Remember that must be so easy.

No.
Satisfied? I have answered your question.
Now go play elsewhere.

Ah yes, I looked back at your initial reply:

Well obviously I didn't quite understand what you were getting at, because a few posts later I asked how you'd be able to tell about copy/paste anyway.

I did build a model, that's not a toy, it's a painted balsa wood miniature I made myself. Obviously I did something right since you thought it was a manufactured toy!

I'm not going to make a ugly craft like that. I'm not going to spend hours and hours building something, just to prove to you it can be faked, not when I wouldn't want to keep the model. Instead I'll use one of my other models, that I've built myself. Maybe I'll build a aircraft model and put that in as well, next to a real picture of the same aircraft, and have you try to figure out which one's real. But to make things tricky (50-50 are good chances after all) I could take more than one picture and add them.

You up for the dare?

Then again, I will have spent hours making a miniature, spending money on batteries to take pictures, time in graphics programs, for what? You can still claim it's not good enough.

For now I'll just use the models I have. But since they're from Star Wars I guess I could take pictures from the movie and add those, and see if you can tell the difference.

How's that?

Ok so try to insert at least your model in that image.Just the way it is in
http://www.ufoevidence.org/Photographs/Photo328.htm
http://www.ufoevidence.org/Photographs/Photo326.htm
the 2 images I show above and that will be OK
http://www.angelfire.com/hi5/olimoti...al_picture.jpg

First reduce the size of the image and cut and paste your model in it.

Who's picture is that, and would I have permission to use it? I can just as well take my own pictures.

That picture comes from the internet, from a "cyprus real estate" firm. We have no permission to use it . I didn't check it in my haste when I used it. I'll leave my "hoax" picture however. I suggest you'd better take your own pictures, they will make the lighting/color pallette/ sharpness issues easier. I took the freedom to use the picture for my hoax. I'll delete the original however, you can look that up on its original place from now on:
http://www.exclusively-cyprus.com/ph...20Tripylos.jpg

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If you have pictures of trees so go for it.But you must recreate the same realism presented in the 2 images i show.

Do you have actually any problems with the owner of the image.

Yes, I do see a gondola - I never claimed there wasn't one under that one. What I said was that there doesn't need to be one and one could also be inside. In fact, in image 328, there does appear to be one, though its hard to tell if that's the gondola or a leaf.

Try to put a burner very close or inside the balloon an the material which the balloon is made will burn in flame ask any hot air balloon constructor if you don`t believe me.
Image 326 still don`t show the gondola.

Rioux. It would seem to me a fairly simple thing to enclose the open area between the actual balloon and the gondola with cloth (or whatever). This would give you the impression the gondola was imbedded in the balloon, but in actuality, it would not be.

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No I haven't but I'm not planning to wait untill I do have problems You can look up the original image at it's original location (where it says it is copyrighted). I changed the url in my own posts. I decided to keep my UFO picture (based on that one) however, because I abused that picture so much that it ain't recognizable anymore, so it won't hurt the Cyprus Real Estate company nor the pride of the one who took the original image IMO. If someone complains about it, I'll remove it from the web. But untill that happens I take this freedom.

Why did you ask?

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The flame produce by the burner will cause a fire of the cloth or whatever betwen the balloon and the gondola.

Rioux:

<above here starts ballooon itself>
|........................|
|........................|
|........................|
|........................|
|........................|
|............X..........|
|............X..........|
|............X..........|
|............U..........|
|........................|
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Legend:
| and - = cloth
. = nothing, can be igonred (say warm air if you like)
x = flame
u = gondola


As you see, there is no cloth between balloon and gondola, only AROUND the gondola as we suggested here. You can attach that cloth to the outside of the balloon itself.
Tell me, how does the flame set fire to the EXTRA cloth below the balloon itself (I left the balloon itself out) that just is there in order to get the gondola out of sight? Say the extra cloth is kept in its place by some structure (because that low there might be not enough hot air to keep it in shape) if there is enough space between flame and cloth, how will it ever catch fire?

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In that case you will not have enough hot air to even fly the balloon.

If you think away the bottom I drew in the "cloacing" cloth (w