Are We Alone?

"But this article is not about social transformation per se - it's about the very real possibility of first contact - something that could transpire even before our children take a leading role in the unfolding story of human history.

Are we ready to get ready?




Ah, I'm continually amazed at the rapidity with which these sorts of articles are published by seemingly credible sources, strengthening my opinion that the ETH is most likely.
Then again, I've been talking about being "desensitized" for years now.

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"Where the telescope ends, the microscope begins. Which of the two has the greater view?" - Hugo

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and net/quote-mining for "years now" as well ..

Hey, Archer!

Good to hear from ya again!

And that may be, but what about the actual content of the article?
The idea, as one should admit, is not so against mainstream thinking as many "skeptics" like to think.

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"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." - Churchill

They seem to be discussing it a bit at the Universe Today forums but most posters are just saying "neat article".

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It has been awhile A.DIM :wink:

The article is mainstream enough, it's how you spin it that speaks volumes, right down to the smiley at the end. I don't believe "we are alone" either but that in itself doesn't certify your ETH - which deals with UFOs. "Desensitizing?" Didn't I hear that after Close Encounters of the Third Kind? That kind of reasoning with it's innuendo of the PTB "grooming us" makes this thread ATM fodder, right next to your similar 'ET Visitors: Scientists See High Likelihood' thread.

I'll get excited when "First Contact" isn't confined to media speculation.

Heck...I've been desensitized since the mid-60's. What's the "hold-up"? Just how desensitized do "we" have to be??

At the risk of stating the obvious:

Asking "are we alone?" posits a legitimate, fundamental question; one to which we presently have no empirical answer. Regardless of source, however, neither increase nor decrease in the frequency of the question being asked serves as evidence in favor of ETH.

This...

...constitutes another example of shoehorning. Nothing more.

#-o

Oh no....

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"Where the telescope ends, the microscope begins. Which of the two has the greater view?" - Hugo

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." - Churchill

Well, "desensitized" or not, I'm of the opinion that if ET ever pays us a visit that it will be their call (having more to do with what their agenda entails...not ours). Their needs will be the determining factors regarding contact. If it's to their advantage then it would likely be, "ready or not...here we come". If it's not to their advantage, then break out the "cloaking devices" and we'll be none the wiser. Just my personal opinion, mind you.

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Yeah, which is essentially all I'm saying.
And yet, some "skeptics" are quick to allege "data mining" and "spin" while implying I've some sort of "agenda."
:-?

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"Where the telescope ends, the microscope begins. Which of the two has the greater view?" - Hugo

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." - Churchill

But what did I "spin," Archer? All I said is that these sorts of articles in seemingly credible sources strengthen my opinion on the ETH; not that they "certify" anything.

And about that other thread: Do you agree that current "rigorous astrophysics" supports the ETH as put forth by Haisch et al, or shall I, as some suggested, consider him yet another scientist turned "woowoo"?

Whatever the case, I don't expect you to get excited about possible "First Contact" either; I suspect it could be rather anticlimatic for you anyway- "eh, we knew it all along."

:wink:

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"Where the telescope ends, the microscope begins. Which of the two has the greater view?" - Hugo

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." - Churchill

Easy enough for a layperson to say! And what might Christians say? Jews? Muslims?

It seems you underestimate the impact such a discovery would have on humans and their institutions.

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"Where the telescope ends, the microscope begins. Which of the two has the greater view?" - Hugo

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." - Churchill

"Shoehorning" presupposes there's an agenda at hand, whether personal, political, religious...
I've merely stated my opinion and have certainly NOT proffered anything as "evidence" here.
Your mistake then, was assuming I offered anything other than an opinion on a recently published article from a seemingly credible source.

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"Where the telescope ends, the microscope begins. Which of the two has the greater view?" - Hugo

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." - Churchill

Indeed, and yours appears to be more balanced and skeptical (in the truest sense, of course) than many others.

The Schopenhauer quote succinctly says it all:

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

IMO, many "skeptics" remain mired in "stage 2." :wink:

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"Where the telescope ends, the microscope begins. Which of the two has the greater view?" - Hugo

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." - Churchill

I think because 99% of the time stage 3 is actually "Third, it is accepted as being wrong." :-"

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Now while I might be amused by Cthulhians, I don't necessarily distrust them to carry out the functions of government. -- JayUtah

What's it like being a skeptic in the Middle East? Check out my blog.

Indeed, chalk another one up for pseudoskepticism! =D>

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"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." - Churchill

Reread my last post.I don't get into that labeling thing anymore A.DIM. I wasn't here when you started that thread but it was another case of finding some speculation you liked and spinning it on the board. I actually find nothing wrong with that in the ATM forum. Regarding the article: I found the correlation between the three points that were mentioned and the statement that this "shores up the prospect.. that our world is immersed in a much larger extraterrestrial civilization" to be a bit of a stretch. Last time I looked, we couldn't prove we are not alone, let alone immersed in ET civilization(s).

Reading certain stuff might bolster your own opinion regarding UFOs, but if you wish to share those opinions with others don't expect too much acceptance based on what you bring to the table - just grabbing some sympathetic snippets off the net isn't going to do it for you.

Given that Homo Sapiens has co-existed with at least one other hominid species determined to be sentient, I'd say, we haven't always been.

These hacks will publish anything.

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