Dagnammit! :angry:

I was hoping it was the The Lesser Spotted Martian Weaselbunny... guess that search will just have to continue! :P

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Of course life is out there. And some of it is intelligent. Though estimates are different in the exact number of civilizations or planets with life, theres not a doubt in my mind that life is out there. And if humanity survives long enough, we'll make direct contact with a few spices. I personly believe that FTL travel will be possible one day (like flying machines that were considered to be impossible 500 years ago). And when we do make contact, will have to ask or selves some pretty hard questions.

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Borg Hail</span>

I'm with you, Ziggy, I think there must be life out there. The problem is that space is so big, I suspect we might only find remnants of past civilizations or the seeds of new ones.

But even if we just find one of these alternatives, we'll have some big questions to ask. Wouldn't it be awesome if we found the alien equivalent of our lunar module on, say, one of Jupiter's moons? Or if we found some form of life on Mars that definitely didn't get there from Earth? Or detecting some sort of transmission from another star system?

I think it would be great to know there were other species out there (although I know not everyone likes the idea)

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Our astronomers and astronauts spend so much time and energy searching in outer space for evidence of extraterrestrial life that they ignore the mountain of evidence right here in our own back yard! Right under our noses are almost daily sightings of unidentified flying objects that behave in seemingly impossible ways (impossible for aircraft built on Earth), in ways that appear to defy our current knowledge of physics. Some of them have been observed to be flying at speeds up to 20,000miles per hour which cannot be attained by the fastest modern jet fighter. They can speed through the air and then instantly stop in mid-air in order to hover motionless for as long as they like, and then fly off again at fantastic speeds! At night, they usually glow with intense light to rival the brightest star. Such advanced technology cannot be of this Earth!
Back in 1991, a huge UFO flap started in Mexico, lasting a few years. Thousands of excellent Camcorder films of the flying objects were taken by reputable citizens, the largest number of such films taken in history. The remarkable thing is that the Mexican media, government and public in general took an open-minded attitude to this almost daily phenomena, resulting in the acquisition of a record number of home movie UFO footage. Surely this constitutes very impressive evidence of highly evolved life in the universe!

B) Recent research by NASA into extremophiles makes it pretty certain that we will find life on other planets not just in our solar system, but in most that we encounter.

To read more about this really great research, right here on Earth visit the following link:

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2004/13...y_ecosystem.htm

I think we may find more of this kind of life on passing comets than we will on Mars. Why? I think Mars is a has been. What it had has been drained away by lots of somethings. We need to know what those somethings are.

In any case , we could survey Mars sites with an extremmophile hunting robot rather than sending astronauts. We need to spend our astronauts wisely.

Cheers

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I reiterate (from an earlier Forum), carbon is not the only life-basis candidate. Pure energy has been around far longer than condensed matter, and it [b][i]does self-organize. Life eats, excretes, replicates and responds to stimuli. Observe ball lightning and sprites as local examples. I expect that the pace of such life would make observation of us a science similar to geology, and interaction with us either a project spanning generations, or too boring to be worth bothering with. Sluggards, we!

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Ignoramus et ignorabamus.-- Reymond

Wir mussen wissen. Wir werden wissen.--Hilbert

Pick one.

Hey Weaselbunny, awhile back you mentioned sentient life. I maintain that is relative. I have done a lot of SCUBA diving in the Caribbean and I have encountered two areas of clearly obvious communications of a higher level (this is exluding the whales and dolphins). The octopus is one and the squid is the other.

I have spent a good bit of time just watching and interacting with squid. They in turn watch me very carefully and communicate among themselves on my actions and movements. They make direct, close up, eye contact (I mean 3 - 5 inches away) and look me right in the eyes. I think they are disgusted that I don't understand what they are trying to communicate to me.

:blink: Other fish and sea creatures generally act indifferently or defensively and if they have eyes it is usually an Orphan Annie stare. Not so with squid.

B) The octopus talks with its arms and body movements. I have watched an octupus repeatedly demonstrate for me its hunting techniques. It would pause and sort of look at me ( not like the squid), but then continue with its demonstration. There was no fear or hostility and I was a welcome guest. Terrific experinece.

Our first encournters with ETs could be similar.

Cheers

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If I had a cousin, his name would be Yoda.</span></span></span>

You mean...they would demonstrate their hunting capability?
Unlikely. Unless they wanted to wipe us out.

I think that there is some kind of life out there maybe not inteligent life but still some kind of life, probably microscopic, which makes it harder for us to discover it.

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I believe that there's both microscopic and intelligent life in space. Space is just so big for humans to be the only form of intelligent life- there must be more. Microscopic life is probably more common since it dosent take long for it to form or evolve. I would like to see how different extratrestrial life forms are from humans and animals living on Earth. It would also be interesting to see how they evolved from other life on their planet.

Point well taken StarLab. For the octopus in my example it was its hunting technique it used to communicate; however, that need not be the case for an ET encounter.

Actually I would hope the ETs would behave better than we do, in that we most often destroy suspicious life forms encountered here and even many that we are familiar with, including ourselves.

I am hoping that when and if contact ever occurs we have learned how to behave

Hey here's an off topic comment:

On this Memorial Day weekend in addition to honoring all our great heroes, save a silent minute for all those astronauts who have given their lives to help us better understand outer space.

Cheers

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If I had a cousin, his name would be Yoda.</span></span></span>

How can we spread this idea? Interesting...

Uh-huh...did you peform that function? If so, please post that photo here, and if not, perform that function, take the photo and post it here anyways...

By the way, what are your credentials?

Re: spreading the word. I also put in a new topic on Human Space Flight with a broadened area of coverage.

I assume on the credentials question you are talking to the rat tail messenger?

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Duh!

Is there life in the "universe" ???

Who cares? See that question irks me and an irked me is not a pretty sight.

It always seems to me that when a person ask that question they have no clue about the size of the universe, not a little bit. The universe is so vast that if life isn't in this particular galaxy chances are we will NEVER know if it is anywhere else. So like who cares? It's the wrong question.

The right question is, is there "life" in this galaxy? Almost certainly there is BUT if it is bacteria or fairly mindless beasts it won't matter until WE get there.

As far as "intelligent" life goes I kinda think we are alone.