Russian Researchers Say Debris of Alien Spaceship found in Siberia

Members of a special expedition researching the site of the famous Tunguska meteorite fall have claimed they had discovered parts of an extraterrestrial device.

oook, we can only hope that there really was something i'm curious myself about this, after all, Russia is my neighbouring country

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I am curious also...but I have my debunking hat near...

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That has a negative connotation to it IMO, like you've already made up your mind it was bunk.

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If this find does turn out to be the remains of some alien artifact it will change all our conceptions on life in the universe & whether we are alone or not. It will most certainly be very interesting!

I´m going to try & keep an open mind on this :unsure:

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Important, if true.

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I'd like to poke at it, if it's real....

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Today's issue of Pravda carries news from a scientific expedition to the site of the "Tunguska Space Phenomenon" or "Tunguska meteorite", a massive explosion that occurred in the Evenkiya republic of Siberia on June 30th 1908.

http://english.pravda.ru/science/19/94/378...5_tunguska.html

According to the report, members of the scientific expedition say they have:

1. Uncovered blocks of an extraterrestrial technical device.

2. Delivered a 50-kilogram piece of a stone, called the "deer", to the city of Krasnoyarsk to be studied and analyzed.

The original story in Russian is available at:

http://science.pravda.ru/science/2004/6/79...7_TUNGUSKA.html

What do you think of this story? Comments?

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Very interesting story, I'll be utilizing 'Google News Alerts' to stay updated on this. Thanks for the post Shaltai.

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I had heard of small teardrop shaped pieces of metal being found close to ground zero, but nothing else.

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it's not that I doubt the possibility of there being remains of an alien craft in Russia it's that I doubt the veracity of many NEWS FLASHES that come from first, The Soviet Union and now the Russian Federation. For instance, this episode could be a play for more funding by those involved or a play to get household name recognition so as to use this as some stepping stone to somewhere else. I hope it's true and it very well may be true, but on the surface the definitive claims of the team sounds stretched beyond the existing evidence whatever that might be. Usually an announcement of a find would be normal, but to declare conclusion while still in the field is not a scientific approach to the matter. Peer review has its weaknesses, but I don't think the Russians are much into peer review when it comes to the paranormal or extra-terrestrials. I hope the Russians eventually get their act together and not in a totalitarian fashion.

That's great...now all they have to do is have it independently tested, and if those tests show that the "spacecraft material" can not have been manufactured on Earth...then, we'll have something. Until then, my opinion is the same as damienpaul and Tribune100.

Unfortunately there are many sensationalist news reports from Russia these days; you can never find any solid evidence to back any of it up.

Try reading the Pravada webpages for a bit of a laugh; pure tabloid journalism.

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I would hope that it's true, but I too am dubious of this information. Media ethics (Russian or otherwise) aside, the Tunguska site had been looked at -many- times over the years, including a pretty thourough investigation soon after the incident. If this was caused by an object of extra-terrestrial origin, I would think that evidence would have been found to support this long before today. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it seems pretty unlikely. There simply has been no scientific data to support that we have ever been visited (conspiracy theories aside) and while it would be great if this turned out to be the first "hard core" evidence, I'm not going to hold my breath on this one either.

My general opinion is, that while I'm sure there are other highly advanced forms of life in the universe, it's unlikely that we've been visited...or at least visited as frequently as many people believe. Lets face it, we're out in the backwaters of our own galaxy. Even if the galaxy and the universe itself is well populated, theres a very very good chance that no one really even knows we're out here. More over, even if a species advanced enough to achieve intergalactic space travel were aware of our presence, other then occasional visits for research and evaluation, what would be the point of them travelling all the way here? We're still a rather backwards and primative species, comparativly speaking, that still frequently squabbles amounst themselves over trivial (and not so trivial) issues. A species who hasn't even learned how to take care of our own planet yet. At this point in our evolution we don't have much to offer in regards to being part of a galactic community. If their smart enough to travel the stars, their smart enough to know, we're not ready. In addition, I'm certain there must be much more interesting things in the universe to explore then "us"...one of the reasons we keep looking out there ourselves .

I'd honestly take this one with a grain of salt.

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I have not seen anything in this report to prove this metal was from a UFO....

I try to take these reports with a grain of salt.

I agree with the skeptism.

It will be interesting to see if analyses show the stone to be meteoritic.

There was no mention of analyses to see if the "extraterrestrial technical device" is part of a UFO.

It is probably wise to take a grain (or pound) of salt with many reported discoveries these days.

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Jim, you said, “what would be the point of them travelling all the way here?”

Your aliens must be absolutely the dullest, most unimaginative and uncurious creatures compared to us. A species of ant garners the most incredible attention from the entomology community and biologists in general—even the mainstream press.

Imagine the excitement, the euphoria, if a niche of unique and undisturbed primitive life were found in some cave complex, in some kind of water environment, on an island or some other iso-lated area. In the 19th century and before, hundreds of expeditions involving hundreds of thou-sands of people scoured the world looking for strange new life; like finches with different sized beaks.

We even spend money, time, and talent investigating long extinct plants, insects, reptiles, birds and other primitive life; and we have been doing so for centuries.

Doesn’t it seem likely that some of these aliens will at least approach us in imagination, creativity and curiosity?

What about a moral or compassionate sense, or are these aliens all lacking in what we would ad-mire as altruism. They could easily turn us on to the cures for cancer, addition, and schizophre-nia. When we encounter primitive peoples, at least some of us, try to explain the importance of clean drinking water, and show them how to get it.

If they’re turned off by our immaturity, how about a little help n that department? What are bet-ter ways to resolve, or avoid, disputes? How about a little help finding solutions to some of the environmental issues? Or do they all just say, “Sink or swim.”

Aren’t any of the aliens concerned at all about all the species on our planet that are going extinct? Don’t the aliens harbor any greenies?

Aren’t any of them into primitive art, philosophy, technology, mating rituals, and other things? Millions of humans work on this stuff all the time with great enthusiasm.

All in all the idea that we, and all other living and non-living things on Earth, hold nothing of in-terest to any group of any alien species seems like an awful stretch. But, if they’re that dull, I’m not sure they’re ready for us. And we probably couldn’t stay awake around them.

Bob

It's seems rather peculiar to me that, for the discovery of a century, no one has picked up on this; not CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC, Fox, the New York Times the Wall Street Journal, nor any govern-ment spokesman in Russia, the US, or anywhere else.

It's been two days now; and the mainstream media isn't well noted for caution; the Russian gov-ernment is not gloating. What gives that nobody talks? If it's real.

Bob

I've merged these two threads (started by Shaltai and then Oliver).

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