Chatroom
 

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Bad Astronomy and Universe Today Forum > Space and Astronomy > Life in Space
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

   

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #31 (permalink)  
Old 15-February-2005, 01:22 AM
StarLab
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

I do not believe a machine could ever be capable of reproducing human feelings and emotions without the use of metabolism, which with today's machines is impossible.


Joseph, I see you updated your avatar. Izzat a pic of you?
Reply With Quote
  #32 (permalink)  
Old 15-February-2005, 10:01 AM
3rdvogon's Avatar
3rdvogon 3rdvogon is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Portsea Island
Posts: 483
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by j0seph@Feb 14 2005, 04:09 PM
I think that if we ever wanted to archive someone's personality within a computer, we would have to subject the mind to an extremely large range of stimulation, each invoking a different feeling, or reaction, and archive the thoughts and feelings of the person as a result of the stimulation, that could be a step to preserving a person's personality
I understand what you are trying to say but it would be a very complex task. You would need to stimulate all the stages of sexual arrousal up to the point of climax. You might even need to murder (or convince the subject that you had mudered) a close family member to "simulate" loss/grief/anger etc. I would question if many subjects would appreciate being put through such a procedure or even if it were ethical. After you did all that you would end up with a series of snapshots of emotional state. What you would not have are the complex control mechanisms that govern those conditions. Using my example of the murdered family member by what means and over what timeline do the feelings of grief turn to anger and then revenge. Do all humans go through the same stages in the same sequence at the same rate, I think not. Are each of these conditions exclusive (artificial systems like exclusive conditions) or do they overlap and conflict with each other. All of this hints at the sort of things that often make humans falible and indecisive but essentially human. I guess I have to be careful here as it sounds like we would end up creating an electronic sociopath, things would probably not be that bad as some hard wired restraint might be possible. Nonetheless the end product would be less than a fully formed human personality.

Believe me I am not suggesting AI is impossible or that it would always be impossible to have a machine learn to read, to respond to and also to some extent simulate human emotional conditions. However I think the machine would do this like a skilled stage actor it would not "feel" in the way that we humans do.
__________________
Note 1. All requests for planetary demolition must now be submitted in quadruplicate on form UX-565/B4 and be counter-signed by the assistant administrative officer for interstellar traffic calming - department QG-7. Subject to approval by the chief planning officer and the infrastructure development coordination sub-committee.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT. The time now is 08:57 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.0.0
©  2006 Bad Astronomy and Universe Today