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my solution to the fermis paradox is that the reason y we havent been visited is bc we are the only technologically advanced civilization in the galaxy. im sure there is intelligent life in the galaxy, but it would be non civilized and equal to animal life
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Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the Western Spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small unregarded yellow sun. Orbiting this at a distance of roughly ninety-eight million miles is an utterly insignificant little blue-green planet whose ape-descended life forms are so amazingly primitive that they still think digital watches are a pretty neat idea ... |
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For the discussuion to be rationally pursued, substitute technological competence for intelligence. TC plus curiosity wil drive the Europans out through that shell of ice into competition with us for organizing the universe. I hope our goals are compatible. Then come the Callistoans and the Ganymedians; before long it'll get crowded around here.
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Personally I just think there is actually a limit in what we and other civilizations can do, regardless of age and undisturbed conditions of evolution, techwise speaking. It might not be possible to travel to other stars in any acceptable way. Or communicate. Without that "warpdrive", or with any other yet unimaginable way, there will be no visitations, only isolation.
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For those inclined to oppose human meddling with the structure of the universe or the composition and configuration of objects and groups of objects within the universe, consider: Whether there is a limit to the magnitude of a modulation of chaos below which order remains invariant? Or, is order but a fiction invented by perspectives applied over finite, however large, time intervals? |
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I think we fail to remember that we've yet to reach Type 1 civilization, and if there are any others out there, they've had time to reach Type 2 and even 3 civilzation already, and would likely be indistinguishable from magic to us mired in our fledgling Type .7 civilization.
But this OP: "my solution to the fermis paradox is that the reason y we havent been visited is bc we are the only technologically advanced civilization in the galaxy. im sure there is intelligent life in the galaxy, but it would be non civilized and equal to animal life" nearly pleads as special a case some consider the plenitude stance, something rare and miraculous for us to have come about. Curious, isn't it.
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As I've said before, I tend to broadly agree with the OP. We can come up with no end of ideas as to why all the civilisations have not made themselves known to us. But there's no evidence FOR those ideas, for the simple reason we have zero examples of ET civilisations on which to base things.
In the absence of anything to the contrary, logically, we have to go for the simplest explanation -and that is, we're the only technological civilisation in the galaxy. Nature rewards fertility not brains. I think humans are a strange quirk of nature, the evolutionary result of some very special coincidences and circumstances. By most measures, insects are more successful than mammals, and they'll still be around long after mammals have gone extinct. |