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Old 17-December-2007, 01:52 PM
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No, not quite what you think. The December issue of Scientific American had an article speculating about the possibility of life having arisen more than once on Earth.
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If, as many scientists believe, life can readily emerge under the right environmental conditions, it is possible that life arose on Earth more than once. Researchers are now seeking evidence of a second genesis by searching for exotic microbes that are biochemically different from all known organisms.
No particular evidence of this, but interesting speculation.
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It would take an extremely isolated environment, indeed. Any newborn life would instantly be in competition with its already-evolved supersurvivor cousins.
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Life may have independently arisen several times in earth's history. Fossil evidence does not rule out this possibility. It is not far fetched that accidently formed self-replicating molecules avoided competing for the same resources for a very long time. The evolutionary tree may have more roots than we suspect.
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Im very sceptical. We havent been able to really show that life first evolved on earth the one time so I doubt there were two different genesis events on earth.

If life develops very easily then there would be more roots to the tree of life; but apprently so far the record shows all life on earth emerged from a common ancestry - supposedly.
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It would take an extremely isolated environment, indeed. Any newborn life would instantly be in competition with its already-evolved supersurvivor cousins.
They talk about this in the article. And yes, any survivors would either have to be very isolated, such as in very extreme environments, or not competitors. For example, they talk about the possibility of a life form that uses arsenic as "we" use phosphorous. It might be found in environments that are high in arsenic and low in phosphorous.
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New life is probably arising was we speak, yet being whipped out by more advanced lifeforms...now, if only we had some evidence of this.
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Im very sceptical. We havent been able to really show that life first evolved on earth the one time so I doubt there were two different genesis events on earth.

If life develops very easily then there would be more roots to the tree of life; but apprently so far the record shows all life on earth emerged from a common ancestry - supposedly.
Well, just because we can't do it doesn't mean it can't be done. Just look at the research history of, say, fusion reactors to see that. And life being created "very easily" is a slippery term; remember than there were millions of years of random trial-and-error experiments going on over an entire planet's surface, that's far more than any research budget can duplicate.

As for common ancestry, all we've ever seen are the final survivors. We have no idea what, if anything, our microbial ancestors might have outcompeted to get to be the finalists.
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Dude, it's all in the bible. Just read it and pay your tithe...
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