Prove to me that buddhism is a religion. Spirtuality is a natural part of humanity. You don't separate it from humanity to have a higher understanding. Science is only a catching net, it doesn't reveal any truth, we are the ones that realize the truth, not science. Science is merely a method to test out how theories.

Consciousness has plenty of scientific coverage. Look it up. It mirrors what buddhism says about it.

We're not talking about knowledge. We're talking about KNOWING. KNowing does not require 'knowledge'. Knowledge, is subjective. Knowing, is not.

Humanity can't be the goal of evolution because evolution does not have a goal.

Dinosaurs didn't want to be human becasue humans could not have survived in the planetary conditions of the time.

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Prove it.

rofl, yes we could have. Wejust weren't around. Dinoasaurs did want tobe human, beacuse that's what all wanting and desire leads to. And anyway, we evolved from their descendents, other reptiles, into mammal, and eventually into us.

Actually mammals evolved from therapsids, a group of reptiles which existed before the dinosaurs evolved. So in many ways we did not evolve from the dinosaurs, and they signally failed to evolve into us. In your theory most- in fact almost all- species fail to acheive their goal.

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ToySoldier, you can't just reply to a message with 'prove it', and by can't, I am taking into account the fact that you already have.

'And you're saying, that if any one creature on this planet desires something, given the emotion, life/fate/universal balance instantly paves the way to it becoming, Human?

'And by Human we're saying, two-legged, walking, talking ape-like creatures?
With hair, and not fur?

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I like to think, although in their current states, most of the species inhabiting this planet have evolved just fine

I know it's not your theory, but I'd like to see if anyone agrees with me here.

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Sorry, it's your burden of proof. Here was your statement:

Human life is the result of everything that wants to be, the stars, the planets, our moon. Everything in the uinverse pulled on earth, that created the first life forms, so that they could become us. It was all meant to be.

Please present the scientific support for "It was all meant to be."

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Well then, you should have no trouble providing references that show a specific, objective definition of "consciousness" and the experiments that confirm this definition.

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No, there was to much CO2 and not enough easily digestible food. Dinosaurs were big because they had to be able to take in lots of nutrient poor food and store lots of atmospheric gas for oxygen exchange. They probably had small brains because the environment didn't provide enough energy to support such energy intensive organs.

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Um, sorry to inform you, but theraspids have only existed for around 200 million years. Dinosaurs have existed for a few million years longer than that.

rofl. No there wasn't. The air back then was much cleaner and easier to breathe than it is now.

Your attempts to discredit me are pathetic.

I never said all animals become human eventually. Some die out to give rise to better creatures. Howerver, all that wanting and dsire that they have, is the result of them wanting to be human.... wanting to become what we have become.

Scientific evidence.

You can only do what you think is right, and you can only do what is possible. Therefore, whatever you do, was meant to happen.

Take omniscience for example, yo know eveyrthing you're going to do. This means that whatever you do was meant to be.

Not according to the documentary I saw a couple weeks ago.

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That is not correct; Therapsids evolved in the Permian, which is before the Triassic. The Dinos did not evolve until the Triassic.

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It seems that 'knowing' something is not quite as useful as 'knowledge'.
If you 'know' something without proof and data you run the risk of being incorrect; if you are incorrect you may never 'know' that you are.
This is not knowledge, it is 'belief'. And belief can be wrong.

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I'm not trying to discredit you.

When I use a question mark, it normally indicates my confusion, or in the context I initially went for, a vague chance for you to correct me not... fly off the handle with insinuations of me somehow, attempting to discredit you, where all I've done is worded something / you've / misread wrong.

Though your stamina is intriguing, how you can sit there, if you're sitting, and brush off everyones' polite, if not as-equally-passionate-as-your-own replies, as if it's dirt on your shoulder.

Will you ever stop 'rofl'ing and, just maybe, back up your claims?
Wikipedia will do.
Just as long as you're not just scoffing at everyones' own opinions.

Sorry Soldier, but I'm being as polite as I can.

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This thread has some of the most funny misconceptions and delusions that I have come across in a very long time. Let me recap some howlers: