I just bought the Unsolved Mysteries UFO DVD series and got through the first "Case". Ironically, probably one of the better ones. The Bentwaters story.

In the video, the most frustrating part was the skeptic claiming they saw comet's or an asteroid. Over 10 witnesses saw multiple object's in the air and on the ground on multiple nights. In fact, the main collonel on base went out with search lights to "debunk" the thing, as he says.

The skeptic said the burden was on these men to prove what they saw was alien. Yet, every man said they DID NOT KNOW WHAT IT WAS.

So, why was this guy debunking a story in which the witnesses did not claim it was alien? Arrrghh! Anyways, I will let it go..

I've missed unsolved! My family and I watched their stuff every week on Thursday nights if I remember. One of the few television programs I ever got into! :wink:

Maybe it was a 1979 Plymouth Volare.

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lol, see yet again it's the same kind of hogwash from the other debunker.

The witnesses said the object left an impression, and that it shot pencil thin beam lights down at the ground at them. What on earth does this have to do with what Condone is saying he done? Car lights have nothing to do with multiple object's seen in the air and on the ground.

Im watching the Roswell one now.

No one does this stuff better than Unsolved. Robert Stack just had such a serious voice for this. They also don't let the background music overtake the voices like I've seen some cheap shows do today. Just good quality reinactment's of incredible situations.

I am fascinated how the MJ-12 Reference in the show is corraborated with the General Ramey memo, which we know about today. ;-)

The reference to "4 bodies" being recovered, but that they were dead is interesting. I've noticed that in both the JFK and Roswell case, both one's the government has released two "official stories".

But which, surely you mean "imaginative recreation" of unreliable wishful thinking? :-? :wink:

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Only to a debunking skeptic I suppose. :-?

Perhaps I am misreading this, but it seems that you are getting angry at the debunkers for not making any sense. I haven't seen the video (DVD) that you are describing, but having seen "Unsolved Mysteries" many times, I would caution you about how you interpret what you are seeing. Keep in mind that the name of the show is "Unsolved Mysteries", not "Odd Things with Perfectly Rational Explanations". The producers of the show are marketing to a particular audience. Thus, we can expect the show to be slanted toward that audience's entertainment.

In your first post you describe a situation where the statements of the "debunker" seem crazy - not even related to the facts at hand. I would suspect that this may be an artifact of creative editing. perhaps the producers wanted the debunker to appear flippant and simply chopped up his explanation so that it came out in an over-simplified, ridiculous sounding, sound bite.

A debunker could easily spend a half hour building a perfectly rationale case to explain a situation (see some of JayUtah's posts for examples), only to have an editor reduce it to the lame-sounding last few lines (eg. "it was a meteor").

Sheki

Exactly...I couldn't have said it better, myself.

Unsolved Mysteries is not an objective investigation, searching for what actually happened...it's entertainment. And as such, it's not a good idea to rely on that show, if one is searching for the truth of the matter

The term debunking does not carry a negative connotation. Bunk is synonymous with nonsense. To debunk something is to separate or remove the nonsense from a given claim.

Just good quality reinactment's of incredible situations.
Well, fiction is fiction no matter how you package it.

I am fascinated how the MJ-12 Reference in the show is corraborated.
I am fascinated that they would reference MJ-12 at all since several of the documents were discovered to have been the General Ramey memo, forged on the typewriter of the "discoverer." Or is this a case of CBS'itis in that the documents are forged but what they say is true?

the General Ramey memo, which we know about today
Which Ramey memo? The one supposedly computer enhanced and enlarged that speaks of "victims"? Seen it. There is no way to read the text given its fuzziness. To put words on it is pure wishful thinking.


The reference to "4 bodies" being recovered.
I love this one. The "bodies" had to be from the "main" crash site since the newspaper accounts made at the time made no mention of such on the Foster Ranch.

the government has released two "official stories".
I need to know which ones you refer to before commenting.

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You say "the government" as if its some singular, sentient entity. It isn't. IIRC, the initial Roswell comment was made by a low-level public-affairs officer who knew nothing about anything.

Me too.

We've discussed these here before: here & here come to mind, although there are likely more in the archives.

I just came back from the bush the other day and during the trip I saw a saucer shaped object in the sky low to the horizon. I picked up the bino's (70x15) and it still looked like a saucer. All the guy's there were having a guess as to what it was and one commened it was the Jupiter 2, they finally made it home
The best way to describe it was it looked like a photo of the sombrero galaxy. It moved slowly down towards the horizon like it was hovering and then going to land.

Out came the telescope to find out what this was and it turned out to be the contrail of a high altitude plane heading away from us :roll:

Seems this is quite common and all the farmers know about it as they see them regularly. Given today's crowded skies I'm sure there would be areas where there would be multiple of these things in the sky at the same time looking like an invasion of space ships. Might try to get a photo of that 8)

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Are all of the stories which Unsolved did on UFO's "Fiction"?

How do you debunk an unsolved mystery?

Why would you debunk an unsolved mystery?

Russ, you're right. There have been 3 stories for Roswell. First, it was a disk. Then a weather balloon. Now it was a secret test object.

How do you know these either constitute "mysteries" or are "unsolved?" Just because it says so on the box doesn't necessarily make it so. Caveat emptor.

Warthoog, the assumption that DVD'S containing some 17 stories are all fiction is laughable. How would you know?

Which one's have been solved then?

The "mysteries" included in the DVD set you mention contain staple claims which have been parroted ad nauseum. These are not new -- the Rendlesham "incident", Roswell, the Nazca lines, crop circles, the Phoenix lights, the "face" on Mars... etc. Refutations exist for these claims via a number of reputable resources, and in the case of "the face", even on this very site.

If the only criteria required to guarantee the authenticity of a given claim is seeing it on a DVD, I can make a great case for the existence of hobbits, nazgul and the like.

Wait... are you implying that hobbits don't exist?

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